My New Buddy =)

Congrats on your new buddy.

Obedience is the key to everything else.

You can't teach her to fetch. She got that from her Mom and Dad. You just have to teach her to do it when YOU want her to and to bring the bird to you and let you have it.

I would suggest a book, "THE TEN MINUTE RETRIEVER" by John and Amy Dahl.
It's about $25 at Chapters.

Also, try and find a local Hunting Retriever Club. They helped me a great deal.

People are very passionate about the way they train and think their way is the best way. Listen to everyone. And then choose what you like and think will work best for you and your dog.

Good luck.
 
Thank you all ever so much for your input thus far, I appreciate it immensely!

7.62mm thank you, that was a very informative post you provided me.

I was aware of their diet and how easily they can gain weight, learnt that last night googling ;) :)

There arnt to many sites out there that tell you what to do though! because I guess that knowledge comes with a price tag.

I got her a ball today and wow, she loves it. Her owner said she loves the ball big time. But it was dark and as I said, there is almost 3ft of snow on the ground here so it is kind of hard to do that right now.

It is funny though, in my backyard I have some good snow drifts. And she would be playing with the ball swatting it with her paws and nose and then it would go under the snow and she would stick her head right into the snow bank and dig out the ball and do it over and over again lol.

I love these dogs. They are almost human-like.

Thank you also for the stick advise! I never knew that! and I am thankful you told me that because I was trying to get her to fetch a stick this morning but as I said.. the snow is deep here so it just vanished when it hit the ground.

And oh yes! she will be getting PLENTY of excersize! I live in a little village surrounded by forest and tall foothills and lakes. So the excersize is endless here and I also enjoy it myself. Even if it's -25 :eek:O

Thank you again all for the info thus far! and keep on adding to it if anyone else can offer me more tips and tricks!

Regards
Northwoods
 
First off, Congrats on getting such a beautiful looking dog, the Labrador retreiver has to be, in my mind, the finest hunting dog and companion on the planet. It is just to bad that that we outlive them. Anyways, here are my $0.02:

Step one: You have to define what it is that you want to do with you dog. I think you have done that by stating that you mainly want to hunt upland birds. Labs generally are used for flushing upland game birds, where as a pointing dog...well points, and a setter well.....sets, on a bird. There are some breedings of labs that will point, but I am fairly confident that the one you have is not of this breeding.

Labs love structure. They respond very well to any type of training, and especially like to know where they stand in the world, especially when it come to their standing in the hierarchy of the "Pack" relationship. So you, and the dog are the new "Pack" and guess who gets to be the leader. I f you guessed the dog......WRONG. The first thing I would do, is go through some basic training, ie. obedience. Does she sit on command? Does she heel? Does she come back reliably when you call her? She is so "New" to you that these might not be quite evident yet. If all these things are not in place I would start there. All these things will also keep her safe, while you are out hunting, cause the last thing any one needs is to accidentally shoot there dog, because it didn't follow a command, or is unruly around other people or theier hunting dogs.

Step 2: It is not difficult to get a retriever to retrieve. The trick is to get them to retrieve to you. Labs have a basic instinct to go and, well.....retrieve, but they retrieve to sustain themselves, not to please you. Get yourself a plastic bumper, or some toy like a tennis ball, and only use that bumper or tennis ball for your training activities. I highly recommend not throwing sticks for your dog, else they will pick up every stick in the woods and surrounding area to retrieve, there by generally pissing you off. And if they do pick up a stick, do not take it from them, but rather let them play with it until they are done. Or take it from them and say "NO, Leave It". Anyways, to get them to bring the bumper back to you, make it as fun as possible, get down on your knees and clap, and make a big fuss of them several times over, for many days. Fuss them up a lot when they get to you with the bumper, and soon they will come back to you fairly reliably.

Step 3: I fyou have access to your game species that you want to train them for do so now. It is best to start a young dog off with a wing, or a frozen whole bird. Your dog looks old enough that it should not have a problem holing a whole bird in its mouth. I like to use frozen, because it is hard for the dog to chew, or tear apart the bird. Very bad things will happen, if your dog, even once, decides to rip apart a bird and try to consume it, I can not stress this enough. Once it does it once, and gets a taste of the bird it will be very difficult to get them to not do this every time. Anyways, use the frozen bird or wing for a time, and get them to do the same things as step 2, ie. bringing the bird back reliably, with hand clapping, high pitched voice etc.. They soon get to know when a training session is going to happen, and they will be very exited, and soon will be begging you to do this. You have probably noticed that there is no food enticement involved with this whole process, and that is as it should be.

Step 4: This is probably one of the biggest things, and the one that screws up more dogs than anything else. Introduction to gunfire. Please do not go out with the 12 guage, and blast it over the dogs head. I the dog has been introduced to this already, that is good, but here is what I suggest. Start off slow. When the dog is eating, lightly bang some pots together. I fno adverse reaction do it a bit louder. If there is an adverse reaction, get them exited and happy and go back to lightly banging some pots while they are eating, and slowly work the sound level up. Same goes for outdoors. take a .22 out with you on a walk, and when the dog is a distance away from you, fire a shot. the dog will probably look at you, but give it a "GOOD GIRL" or whatever, to mke sure it knows it is alright. Slowly work it up so that the dog is closer and closer to you when you shoot. Them work it up to a shot gun. Same again, make sure the dog is quite a distance from you when fire the shotgun for the first time, and slowly work the dog closer. Any adverse effects, slow down and go back.

This is a much abridged version of Retriever Training, there is way more to it than I could possibly type in one sitting, and there are other opinions out there than mine, but this should get you started. Enjoy your new dog, and keep training sessions short, 15 - 20 mins. at a go is plenty fot=r them to take in in one session.

Hope this helps.

Oh ya, here are some links for you:

http://www.oakhillkennel.com/
Go to the Library section, some good stuff there.

http://www.retrieversonline.com/
The quintesential Canadian Retriever Site

I am sorry 7.62mm. I forgot to answer some of your questions.

Keep in mind that I have only had her for 28 hours now. But thus far "also keep in mind her owners we're french but could speak english but mostly spoke french as it is mostly french speaking people here"

But she understands "Sit" very well. She also understands "Shake Paw". Also when I have her out for a walk down the trails here, she will run about 30ft infront of me then stop and wait for me to catch up until she goes another 30ft. But if she happens to go a little to far ahead of me. I call her new name "Brandy, she just got named that last night" and she stops and turns around and comes right to me. But not like right to me as in coming to me and sitting. Well some times.

I think the biggest challenge will be teaching her all the english commands. And I know she is extremely smart, because for the most part she understands me so far!

And I think we will work out great! I have only had her for a day and she comes up to me all the time when I am at my computer and lay's beside me. So today I made her a big comfy bed all for herself here in my living room beside my computer so I am alway's around her when I am up here.

I also heard that they need to be around their owner A LOT, so that is what she will get. I've got a bunch of health issues myself that is keeping me from working right now so me and her will alway's be together other then when I need to go to the hospital etc "tomorrow I gotta go" so I will let my mother look after her for a couple hours then when I get back I will go take her down to the beach and try playing some fetch with her. But I would like to get her a larger ball so it doesn't sink into the snow.

Yes, I 100% agree with you that getting the fetch tactics down pat and that is what I plan on doing. I think she just needs to be around english only speaking people for a bit so she can pick up on it better. She's doing great though, and she is the first dog that I have owned that I feel confident in!

Well, that is all I can think of at the moment, but I will definately keep all of you folks up to date on my progress with her. And please, if anyone else has any info, feel free to add it :)
Thank you all again!
 
It sounds like your lab will have a good home!!.I have a 14 month old black that is wonderful.In a week the stitches will come out of his back leg.Second time for that,he runs very hard and is a bit clumsy.I am fortunate that I can take him to work with me as well in the winter.Trained him a bit with pigeons that I shot at about 7 months.It was a bit too early as he would play keep away with them,they are very smart dogs and know how to get you to chase them.It is hard to not let the darned dog train you!Next fall for grouse!!!This fall he was too high strung.Congrats on getting a totally loyal friend!
 
A friend who has had dogs in field trials for many years gave me a tio on how to get the dog to release the bird or whatever he has fetched,mine likes to play tug-o-war sometimes and he advised to pinch your nail into his ear to get them to let go.I thought this was cruel,but I tried it eventually and it works!!Now if he is a bit too rambunctios I just have to reach towards his ear and he drops whatever he has,with a big grin,and waits for me to chuck it again.They live to retrieve,the only time mine stops is if there is food around.
 
Back to 7.62 : I was typing as you were - doah.

(listen to 7.62 folks he's way more learned than me by the sounds of it..)

he advised to pinch your nail into his ear to get them to let go.I thought this was cruel,but I tried it eventually and it works!

That's exactly what a ##### does to control her pups. A gentle pinch/bite to the ear. I've never had a dog that it didn't work on. Much better a bit of a pinch to the ear which puts the dog in immediate submission, than a wack or slap or something stupid......
 
Good lookin' dog!! I had a Heintz for 17 years and I could get him to do new things pretty nearly the whole time. He was pretty lazy, so he would only do what he felt like doing, and he knew he could get away with it. For instance, if I asked him to "roll over", he would sort of drop down on one front leg then get up and look at me, as if to say, "Good enough?". I could almost believe he was probably thinking, "You cheap bastard, you expect me to grovel for a piece of a cookie!!". :p:p
 
I am by no means an expert. I do belong to a dog club here in SW Ontario, and I have trained a couple of dogs. I have a new one on the way on Friday at 7 weeks old, and a complete sponge, just the way I like them:D. Anyways, I thought I could do a daily diary on my dog training through GunNutz, for anyone that is interested. I know there are a couple other guys on this forum that do some retriever training, and it would be interesting to get their views, as well as interest some others, that might be wanting to do something like this. What do you think?
 
I am interested 7.62 for sure ;)

And post pics of your new dog in this thread when you get it!

What kind of pup are you getting? must be a lab :D

There are many great breeds of dogs out there. They all have their purpose and place in this world. For me though, the only dog is a Pure Bred Lab:D. I have some hunting partners that have setters, pointers, terriers and hounds, but they all pale in comparison to the loyalty, willingness, and pure trust that a Lab will give you. So ya, the Labrador Retriever, is the only dog I will let own me. I will be sure to post photo's of my new pup.
 
Your so right in so many ways ;)

Brandy is sittin layin here in her bed playin with her new purple tennis ball and talking to me in doggie talk lol.

Can't wait to see the pix!

What kind of lab are you getting?
 
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