My new buy Mosin ex sniper!UPDATE with new pics

gewehr76 said:
OP Nice Rifle. Most ex snipers have been refitted with straight bolt handles when refurbished, this one I guess has been omitted. Does the bolt match?

Anyway regarding wife situation. Why is it so hard to explain that purchase of a firearm is an investment. What other stuff keeps its value or appreciates with time in this country? Aside from real estate no other crapola you buy keeps its value, only firearms do. So go ahead and tell your wife you made an investment, not expenditure.
Don't tell everyone this, It may ruin some people lol :)
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The bolt is matching, as far as i can see all parts are matching including bayonnet. I'm not to familiar with Mosin's but have always wanted and i instantly fell for this one!
 
The bolt handel dose not look like the original it looks like the new replacements that are being made now ,as they are thicker and have a slightly diferent profile than the originals.hard to tell from the pic,in any case nice rifle ,now you need a pu scope and mount.enjoy your new rifle .nothing better than finding a new treasure lol
 
Yes bolt handle was re welded. Most likely at the Molot, who civilianized these rifles and issue certificate that its hunting rifle now and no longer military, thus can be exported to other countries. Usually they put KO <GIS> markings under handguard on the barrel. OP please check there for white etched markings. Caliber and proof markings.
 
gewehr76 said:
Yes bolt handle was re welded. Most likely at the Molot, who civilianized these rifles and issue certificate that its hunting rifle now and no longer military, thus can be exported to other countries. Usually they put KO <GIS> markings under handguard on the barrel. OP please check there for white etched markings. Caliber and proof markings.
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I removed the handgaurd and took pics of the markings i could find and updated the post. I appreciate all the info, this is why i like older interesting rifles it's half the fun.
 
If it is anywhere near as accurate as my repro-sniper or better that should be one fine shooting rifle. When I get home I now motivated to bring that rifle out again to confirm exactly how small of a group I can get out of Chinese Surplus....my first use of that stuff was simply jaw dropping for performance 4 shots out of 5 within an inch or less and 1 round flyer within 1.5 inches....I need to test if that was a fluke or actual expected performance.
 
that factory de-sniper refit looks rough.

I had one years ago that was so well done that you could not even see that the holes had bee filled in. They used screws to plug the holes and just a quick surface weld to hold them in place, and the entire rifle was refinished.
 
First off, if you have to lie to your wife about getting a new firearm, you either really can't afford it, to the point it's going to cause hardship for your family or relationship, or you really need a different wife.

Woodchopper is right in that your lovely rifle is factory desnipered.

The only issue I can see with it is the obviously welded on bolt handle. Usually, the rifles were fitted with a new, straight bolt sleeve and corresponding serial numbers.

That rifle of yours has another feature which makes it appealing if you want to put it back into sniper configuration. It retains the scope number over the left side of the chamber area.

As for the bolt handle, I would get rid of that as well. New bolt sleeves with proper bent handles are available and look more appropriate.

If the rifle were mine and had the factory bolt sleeve installed during desniperizing I would leave it alone. There are lots of collectors out there looking for such variations.

With that bore, it should shoot very well.
 
bearhunter said:
First off, if you have to lie to your wife about getting a new firearm, you either really can't afford it, to the point it's going to cause hardship for your family or relationship, or you really need a different wife.

Woodchopper is right in that your lovely rifle is factory desnipered.

The only issue I can see with it is the obviously welded on bolt handle. Usually, the rifles were fitted with a new, straight bolt sleeve and corresponding serial numbers.

That rifle of yours has another feature which makes it appealing if you want to put it back into sniper configuration. It retains the scope number over the left side of the chamber area.

As for the bolt handle, I would get rid of that as well. New bolt sleeves with proper bent handles are available and look more appropriate.

If the rifle were mine and had the factory bolt sleeve installed during desniperizing I would leave it alone. There are lots of collectors out there looking for such variations.

With that bore, it should shoot very well.
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Thank you for the info, My wife doesnt care about any firearms i buy, but she was an anti before marrying me, shes not too bothered by them anymore and she loves shooting them, it's just a game we play...she hides the purses and shoes and i hide the new guns .
As for the rifle i plan on scoping it and shooting it, not too worried about resale as i plan on keeping it.
 
Chefhunter said:
Thank you for the info, My wife doesnt care about any firearms i buy, but she was an anti before marrying me, shes not too bothered by them anymore and she loves shooting them, it's just a game we play...she hides the purses and shoes and i hide the new guns .
As for the rifle i plan on scoping it and shooting it, not too worried about resale as i plan on keeping it.
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I have yet to see any marriage where games of one sort or another aren't played. Good on both of you for pulling it together successfully.

My comment on your rifle wasn't to make it more salable. Just more collectible and correct if you are looking for variant to fill in your collection.

That rifle should be a very decent shooter. I have three different Mosin sniper variants. PU, PE and a bin there done that PU mid war date that in all appearances looks to have been dragged through half the battlefields in Russia. It shoots better than I can hold with selected handloads and keeps every lot of surplus ammo into 2 inches or less at 100yds.

I have an ex sniper in excellent condition inside and out. It has a perfect bore and matching numbers, with the original barrel. It shoots better than my aging eyes will allow.

Mosins in good shape, bedded properly and with excellent bores are as accurate as any other bolt action used during the wars fought by the Soviet Union or their Czarist predecessors. I really like them. I also find them to be ergonomically correct for my build.

I have done a lot of handloading for a few selected rifles and they are much stronger than the service cartridge they're chambered for. Elwood Epps chambered one to a wildcat variant of the 7.62x54R case, with a 1 degree body taper, 40 degree shoulder and a one caliber neck for me back in the seventies. My biggest issue was finding hunting bullets with .310 to .312 bullets that would stand up to the velocities. The recoil was not pleasant.

Luckily for me, Elwood had a bunch of Woodleigh solids and hollowpoints for me to use, at a price of course. Elwood also made up a side mounted scope base to hold the one inch tubes of western manufactured scopes. It was a modified Weaver side mount that worked well for the purpose.

I've often wondered what happened to that rifle.
 
I don't get why people fear telling their partner what they spent their own money on. Joint money I can understand.

I love a mosin I just wish they were more accurate.
 
Bratwurst said:
I don't get why people fear telling their partner what they spent their own money on. Joint money I can understand.

I love a mosin I just wish they were more accurate.
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If they aren't accurate, you're using the wrong ammo, the rifle doesn't fit you properly, has a worn bore, loose bedding or you might need more practice.

When I purchased my Mosins, I was extremely careful to make sure they all have excellent bores. Of the dozen or so variants I own, all of them will shoot ammo they like better than I can hold.
 
No not really, I am by no means a sniper but can hold my own.

I've used a few Mosins on my time with a variety of ammo. Yes you can get better accuracy if you change a lot of things or have a "as new" one. But really its a mass produced to acceptable standards rifle that was accepted in 1891, its ok for it to get 6moa because that is what it is.
 
That stock repair appears to be rough fitting perhaps a PEM side mount not the PU which is much smaller.I have a rare 42 Tula PEM ex-sniper 3/4" groups with irons at 100 yards.Same year as Vasili's and less than 7000 made that year as the Germans had over run the factory.
http://www.7.62x54r.net/
 
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Bratwurst said:
I don't get why people fear telling their partner what they spent their own money on. Joint money I can understand.

I love a mosin I just wish they were more accurate.
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I think it's called "What's your's is mine and what's mine is mine also" syndrome. Some women can be very controlling but so can some men.
 
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