My new Sweet Sixteen Arrived --picture

I will try to make my point a little more clear. I feel the market for 2000.00 auto loading field shotguns is very limited. Most guys hunt with what they can afford including Mossberg 500's and Remington Express models. I am of that group of buyers. The most expensive auto I own is a Beretta A303 that set me back 600.00 bucks. I have a few 16 gauge guns and the most I paid for one was 450.00 (Remington 1100) The rest were all around 250 to 300 bucks. I like the idea of the new Sweet 16 and applaud Browning for making another 16 gauge gun available but I have to admit I could never afford one at the price they sell for. I do agree with you that the gauge is another thing that will limit sales to the average shooter/hunter.

Darryl
 
madtrapper143 said:
I will try to make my point a little more clear. I feel the market for 2000.00 auto loading field shotguns is very limited. Most guys hunt with what they can afford including Mossberg 500's and Remington Express models. I am of that group of buyers. The most expensive auto I own is a Beretta A303 that set me back 600.00 bucks. I have a few 16 gauge guns and the most I paid for one was 450.00 (Remington 1100) The rest were all around 250 to 300 bucks. I like the idea of the new Sweet 16 and applaud Browning for making another 16 gauge gun available but I have to admit I could never afford one at the price they sell for. I do agree with you that the gauge is another thing that will limit sales to the average shooter/hunter.

Darryl
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You 303, a fantastic autoloader, was the A-400 of its day. Most likely at the top end of price for a working shotgun.
 
Ranger Dave said:
2200 is way too much money for that shotgun. I hope you paid less.
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Based on what?

I do agree there is a steep asking price here and a limited market based on the 16ga, but Browning may be on to something here. There is likely no point trying to compete with the flood of $300 dollar Turkish semis currently flooding the market. I think Browning is tapping into a niche market of guys with disposable income and a twinkle in their eye for nostalgia. The reaction to this firearm should not be measured on 17 year olds looking for a tacticool plastic "shotty". The buzz around this gun has been audible for months on the 16ga forum and now that they are out, the rush to get them is driving up prices already in the secondary market. New owners are already planning for stock alterations. There is probably a market for accessories already...so it goes to show you that each of us is entitled to their opinion, but the next guy is entitled to call BS.
 
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My Sweet arrived today as well, and I didn't pay $2200, but I can assure you this gun is worth every penny! No way would I spend 2k+ on a plastic Benelli, but after having the new Sweet in my hands and looking it over I don't doubt my purchase for a second.
And the dealer selling his for 2200 is way overpriced, no doubt about it. They can be had for 1800 at Epps, and I paid bit more for mine at a different dealer but I wanted the 28"bbl and only he had it.
 
My gun involved a trade -- a 16ga Citori White Lightning that I didn't shoot well and didn't have near the allowed trade value into it. My Sweet has the 26" barrel -- weighs in at 5lb 12oz and is one of those guns that feels alive in your hands when you pick it up. I chose the 26" because of the long receiver of the semi automatic which makes it slightly longer than my 28" O/U's. I could not tell any noticeable difference between the 26 or 28" barrel versions with less than 2oz weight difference.
Cheers, John
 
I have a warm feeling for the 16 bore. I currently own six 16 gauge shotguns. What I don't have is 1800 to 2200 for a gun that to me is way overpriced due to short supply and playing the nostalgic angle on people with disposable income and a romance with the 16 bore (over a years wait for the gun after introduction is another marketing ploy). It makes way more sense to me to purchase a real "Sweet Sixteen" Auto 5 to scratch the itch (won't cost 2000). Desirable Sweet Sixteen Auto 5's are not an easy find but the A5 Sweet at this point is not easy to find either. I am always a bit cautious of newly introduced guns and usually wait a year or two to see if the bugs are all out of the design. On other shotgun forums ( US based) new owners of the A5 Sweet are complaining of broken extractors and cracked fore wood. I guess it boils down to what you want and can afford, I wish the gouging could be a little less obvious though.

Darryl
 
madtrapper143 said:
I have a warm feeling for the 16 bore. I currently own six 16 gauge shotguns. What I don't have is 1800 to 2200 for a gun that to me is way overpriced due to short supply and playing the nostalgic angle on people with disposable income and a romance with the 16 bore (over a years wait for the gun after introduction is another marketing ploy). It makes way more sense to me to purchase a real "Sweet Sixteen" Auto 5 to scratch the itch (won't cost 2000). Desirable Sweet Sixteen Auto 5's are not an easy find but the A5 Sweet at this point is not easy to find either. I am always a bit cautious of newly introduced guns and usually wait a year or two to see if the bugs are all out of the design. On other shotgun forums ( US based) new owners of the A5 Sweet are complaining of broken extractors and cracked fore wood. I guess it boils down to what you want and can afford, I wish the gouging could be a little less obvious though.

Darryl
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Any new A5 is in that price range, not just 16's. The 12's are retailing anywhere from 1700 and up depending on model unless you get one on sale. So by your reasoning, every new A5 is overpriced. Plus take off $100 on them because of the current rebate. The Sweets were introduced at ShotShow, and as any Browning fan would know, those guns are RARELY available immediately. Months of waiting should be expected when ordering a gun debuting there. My BPS Medallion was on order more than 6months before I saw it. And it was my understanding that barrel issues caused the initial delay in production of the 16's. As for all the 'complaints' on other forums, there ONE issue of a broken extractor (which Browning has already remedied) and ONE issue of a cracked forearm, hardly anything to start knocking the gun about.
 
I agree with much of what you say there madtrapper. I think it's a firearm version of a "hatchimal" ::d

I would love to try one though...I too love the 16ga. I have three of 'em.
 
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Any new A5 is in that price range, not just 16's. The 12's are retailing anywhere from 1700 and up depending on model unless you get one on sale. So by your reasoning, every new A5 is overpriced. Plus take off $100 on them because of the current rebate. The Sweets were introduced at ShotShow, and as any Browning fan would know, those guns are RARELY available immediately. Months of waiting should be expected when ordering a gun debuting there. My BPS Medallion was on order more than 6months before I saw it. And it was my understanding that barrel issues caused the initial delay in production of the 16's. As for all the 'complaints' on other forums, there ONE issue of a broken extractor (which Browning has already remedied) and ONE issue of a cracked forearm, hardly anything to start knocking the gun about.
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You must be a Browning man. Sorry for stating my observations in a so called friendly forum. And I do feel the A5 in BOTH gauges is overpriced. No where in my post did I "knock" anything I just stated facts which you confirmed with your post.

Darryl
 
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