My rem is done. :)

I have no problems getting a consistent placement on the gun to look through the sights. As for putting the wooden stocks back on, thats not gonna happen, I grew up shooting pistol grip stocks and I just can't e comfortable with the grip. As for the 3 point sling I would much rather wear the gun on my back traversing some of the slash I have to walk through every day. As for the iron sights well thats why I have the see through mounts, most of the instances I will be shooting without the scope. but like I said one of the spots I can go to has a clean line of sight for about 300 yards. Something I wouldn't do with iron sights, even 3x magnification is ify at 300 yards.

This scope provides better low light vis than what I can afford in a 32mm scope and even a 40mm scope. thats why I put this one on, not to mention I don't really mind too much if this one gets bounced around a bit in the bush.

I can appreciate that you guys may not enjoy the fact that I have to have a single setup for close range brushing and long range(in our neck of the woods 300yard is really long) a red dot won't cut it, a 32mm scope isn't gonna give me the low light ability I want.

So this to me is a pretty fair compromise.

Of course if someone wants to give me a nice 32mm nikkon than I am game.


So here are my requirements.

Light maneuverable gun.
Scope good for low light shooting
Shots up as close as 30 - 40 yards and as far as 300 yards.
Pistol grip stock(can't get used to contorting my wrist to hold a gun)
 
I agree with Martin, you've got an open country scope on a close cover rifle. I also love how you refer to it as a "3x9x50 scope". From the photo it looks like a cheapie. So what you have is a cheap scope, mounted on double extension rings, and 3" (at least) above the cheekpiece. So you can't get anything resembling a cheek weld, you have a cheap scope that will ultimately cost you $350 to replace when you discover that it's garbage, and a tacticool stock. The only decent choice you made was on the caliber.

jedimaster said:
I have no problems getting a consistent placement on the gun to look through the sights.
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Then you must look liek a cartoon character with a long giraffe-neck and comical set of cheekbones. Or you don't know what a real cheek weld is.

As for the iron sights well thats why I have the see through mounts, most of the instances I will be shooting without the scope.
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What sights? Those see through mounts won't do you any good without sights, unless you plan to point-shoot a deer.

but like I said one of the spots I can go to has a clean line of sight for about 300 yards. Something I wouldn't do with iron sights, even 3x magnification is ify at 300 yards.
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Would you shoot a deer at 100 yards with iron sights? If so then you can shoot him at 300 with a 3x scope, provided you can hit him that far away.

This scope provides better low light vis than what I can afford in a 32mm scope and even a 40mm scope. thats why I put this one on, not to mention I don't really mind too much if this one gets bounced around a bit in the bush.
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I can't buy what your selling here. A decent 3-9x40 scope can be had in the low $300 range. And if that POS gets bounced around too much you'll be lucky to hit a barn door at 300 yards, let alone a deer.

I can appreciate that you guys may not enjoy the fact that I have to have a single setup for close range brushing and long range(in our neck of the woods 300yard is really long) a red dot won't cut it, a 32mm scope isn't gonna give me the low light ability I want.
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You really don't understand scopes do you? When you buy a good scope you get better lenses and internal coatings. That's why new scopes are so much better than old ones even though the old one may have bigger lenses - the new ones transmit more light. A big objective lens with crappy lenses and coatings won't equal a quality 4x or 3-9x40.

Sorry if it feels like I'm hacking on just about all aspects of your chosen hunting rig but that's what happens when you flaunt a GI Joe rifle as the next great hunting rig.
 
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Needs a 10 shot banana clip, a bipod and one of those huge cobra slings with the extra ammo loop thingys.


I'm serious ............




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Yes I do understand optics and if I had the money to sink into the scopes I would rather have rather than the one I already had sitting around I would have bought that one.
I wouldn't shoot at a deer with open sights at 100 yards, my eyes are too crappy for that. At 50 yards yah I would but at 100 I think I would have to pass it up.
I already said I would rather a nicer scope but for the money I had to put into a scope, (in this case nothing), it was as best as I could manage. To be in a comfortable shooting position with the pistol grip is well worth the 60 bucks I paid for the stock in my opinion. I can appreciate you guys may not like see through rings, and don't like cheap scopes, but alas thats how it goes. 3x9x40, is what I was originally going to buy but after using one last year I didn't really like it all that much. Also with the rings those are the only rings I could get that would clear the barrel. Yah, its a bit too high I would agree fully, but it does allow for me to remount some open sights and use both. In all likely hood I won't bother using the scope at all as there is really only one spot where we shoot at any distance. I just have to get back out to the hunt camp and see what the loggers did.
As it is now though this is still fairly versitile for my situation.
 
I used to buy into the 50mm theory, but now I know better. I hunt deer in WMU 54, which I know has bush as thick, or thicker than WMU 61. We also have a power line that I sit on at dawn and dusk, with shots out to 800yds if I was inclined to do so.

For ranges up to 400yds, I have no problem seeing or shooting with my VXIII 2.5-8 x36mm, m8 4 x33mm, or my VXII 1-4 x20mm. All these scopes offer longer range shooting as well as tight-quarter shooting in front of the dogs.

In the past I've also used a 2-7x32 Elite with success. IMO you would be better served with a 1.5-6x32mm or a 2-7x32mm with low Burris Zee rings. I don't care for the PG stock, but I'm sure its functional.
 
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hell, even for $200:
Burris FFII 3-9x40mm with ballistic plex reticle
Bushnell Elite 3200 3-9x40mm
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Why would you want a 3x9 x40mm variable scope on a sub 100 yd slug gun? Open sites or a fixed power 1.5 or 2.5 . Ive heard of a lot of Deer being missed or wounded at 50 yds. cause guys have had their scopes set at 9x. At 9x a deer looks like Fur at 50yds.
 
I hunt deer out in western Canada in the open plains, and 4 to 6 power (5.5 is ideal) is what my scopes are set on all the time. But we walk all day kicking out deer so you're aplication may be different.
You dont need high magnification, you need low as possible mounts in reasonably good quality glass. You dont want to be resting you're chin on the rifle stock. If theres no solid connection on that part, you're shot's will be all over the place, Shooting 101...:slap:
 
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I still fail to see how you can be considering not using the scope when there are no sights on the rifle. Please explain that to me.
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BUM, everyone knows you can remove scope, pull out mini driver, screw on front/rear iron sites, and it'll hit exactly where they were when you took them off. Can be done right on your stand. :p
 
Its not a slug gun nor is it a shotgun. I took the open sights off as I didn't like the one that were on it, I have not yet picked up another set of open sights. As for using a 1.5 power scope or a red dot(to which I have never heard of anyone using a red dot on a rifle)...I think I would just use open sights and no scope at all if I was going to be using that low of a magnification.
I would think 5 power would be more than ample for what I need. As I already sad I couldn't find a lower power scope, and at 3 power is completly acceptable at 100 yards at 300 yards though I am uncomfortable whooting with 3 power.
As for the height yah its too high, but they are the only rings I could find that would let the scope clear the barrel and since they were high enough to allow for open sights I figured why not.

As for a banana clip, cigarette lighter and not sure what the other things were, those are not very helpful in having me setup my rifle. Just childish remarks that may make other laugh but really serve no purpose in helping anyone out. Really doesn't bother me either just makes me stop reading your post when I see something stupid like that.

As for how it groups I have no idea I haven't shot it yet and I doubt I will until I either get the open sights as I would rather sight both thing in at once. or possibly pick up a different sight all together. With the near end of Bass season, I will be selling my trolling motor since I want a bigger one on my boat, so perhaps I will use that money to pick up another sight, maybe something smaller that your guys like. I did see a 3200 in the EE forum for 175, are they good scopes or would I be better off with the BDC scope someone else mentioned in one of the other relpies in this thread.

If my budget is say 200 dollars for a scope new or used, what would you guys receomend for a scope for this gun. Keeping in mind I will need to reach out to 300 yards(would prefer at least 5-7 power), need to shoot most shots inside 100 yards. Brand and model would be great, as there is a tonne of scopes in the sub 200 dollar range but I am sure yo guys know what ones are good buys.

Thanks. :)
 
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