Thanks, I'm pretty sensitive to unfounded criticism.
My Results with Hornady ELD X bullets. Not Great. Pics.
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Thanks, I'm pretty sensitive to unfounded criticism.
In 30 caliber the heaviest Barnes TTSX 180 has a B.C of .484. The hornady 178 ELD-X has a B.C of .552, the hornady 200gr ELD-X has a B.c of .597, the hornady 220 ELD-X has a B.C of .654
So in 30 caliber with the ELD-X you can go a B.c of .654 compared to the TTSX's .484....which do you think will be better at long range? Never mind what the animals think...
Ardent
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What can I tell ya? 25 years of hunting on three continents, shot several truckfuls of ungulates, and not for a moment would it cross my mind to pop off at Bullwinkle with an ELD at normal moose ranges. It's an AMax with a tougher jacket and nifty tip.
.303 180 gr Core Lokts killed plenty of moose without any drama for decades. I'll never get why people want to get creative.
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300 WM 200gr Hornady ELD-X ammo is loaded to a muzzle speed of 2860 fps according to the product information -
http://www.hornady.com/store/300-Win-Mag-200-gr-ELD-X-Precision-Hunter/
At 80 yards bullet speed is likely to be under 2700 fps.
And they claim these bullets will look like this at the impact speeds noted -
Misleading or what??
http://www.hornady.com/store/300-Win-Mag-200-gr-ELD-X-Precision-Hunter/
At 80 yards bullet speed is likely to be under 2700 fps.
And they claim these bullets will look like this at the impact speeds noted -
Misleading or what??
300 WM 200gr Hornady ELD-X ammo is loaded to a muzzle speed of 2860 fps according to the product information -
http://www.hornady.com/store/300-Win-Mag-200-gr-ELD-X-Precision-Hunter/
At 80 yards bullet speed is likely to be under 2700 fps.
And they claim these bullets will look like this at the impact speeds noted -
Misleading or what??
That's what happens when you believe marketing hype.
To be fair, that's what I thought it stood for too, but it's extremely low drag - expanding, and Hornady explicitly markets it as an all range bullet. Same same but different.
Fair enough. It'll kill stuff, I guess. It'll just blow up real good too.
I load .300 min mag for a couple people and I use 180 AccuBonds ( AccuBonds are my go to hunting bullet now). One guy shot a smallish bull moose, same scenario as yours but nowhere near the damage and one shot. The other shot a bull elk, pretty much face on at about 3 yards (yes 3), same result, one shot and not too much damage considering the distance. I've shot a few deer with a 7 RUM and 160 AccuBonds with great results but nothing as close as your moose. If your looking for a new hunting bullet in the future I would definitely recommend AccuBonds.
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B.S. Not according to their claims on how the ELD-X bullet is designed to perform as shown in their photos. A full refund and several boxes of GMX bullets to try as compensation would be nice.
300 WM 200gr Hornady ELD-X ammo is loaded to a muzzle speed of 2860 fps according to the product information -
http://www.hornady.com/store/300-Win-Mag-200-gr-ELD-X-Precision-Hunter/
At 80 yards bullet speed is likely to be under 2700 fps.
And they claim these bullets will look like this at the impact speeds noted -
Misleading or what??
Maybe if it didn't hit bone it might survive better? Even in those pics it looks like an awfully thin jacket....explody like Nosler BT's or Bergers.
I think it would be a good neck shot bullet for close range, probably better choices for behind the front shoulder...or shoulder in this case.
Like Partitions.... half explody half penetrator, best of both worlds lol
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Core-bond bullets hold together a lot better. These Swift A-Frames were recovered from Elk and both had struck bone. Not at real high speed but performed more or less as claimed.
http://www.swiftbullets.com/products-s/1819.htm
http://www.swiftbullets.com/products-s/1819.htm
I find it interesting how many people criticize the choice of bullet for moose hunting given two MAJOR factors. The ELD-X is a brand new offering this year with little real world feed back. The marketing says it's good for all distances. So how can anyone say different when they have NEVER used it. A 200gr 300 WM bullet marketed for all ranges should certainly have been a wise choice given the moose could very well have been shot at 500 yds. I wanted to post what I found. One in thousands of possible outcomes with the same bullet on a moose size animal.
Next, what about the Berger VLD hunting rounds ? Any personal experiences without quoting reams of cool numbers ? Am I getting pithy ? Sorry.
Next, what about the Berger VLD hunting rounds ? Any personal experiences without quoting reams of cool numbers ? Am I getting pithy ? Sorry.
Thanks to the OP for trying these projectiles and reporting honestly on the results.
A dead, recovered moose is still meat in the freezer no matter how you look at it, even if a few pounds are wasted.
Berger? I don't know yet, but I just bought a box of .277" 140 grain VLD hunting and I will try them. If I kill something, I'll provide a report on these "boutique" bullets (which I paid a bit over 50 cents each for).
A dead, recovered moose is still meat in the freezer no matter how you look at it, even if a few pounds are wasted.
Berger? I don't know yet, but I just bought a box of .277" 140 grain VLD hunting and I will try them. If I kill something, I'll provide a report on these "boutique" bullets (which I paid a bit over 50 cents each for).
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Haven't used these but VLD's appear to be solid copper hollow points similar to Barnes X except designed to partially fragment -
"...The VLD design incorporates a sharp nose that allows the bullet to penetrate 2" to 3" before it starts to expand. After the initial expansion, the bullet will shed between 40% and 85% of its weight as shrapnel into the surrounding tissue...."
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1076497021/berger-hunting-bullets-30-caliber-308-diameter-168-grain-vld-hollow-point-boat-tail
Bergers are all I use now. Shot elk, bear, deer, moose from short to medium ranges and never had a problem. Bullet penetrates between 2 and 4 inches before expanding, then does so violently, generally stopping the recipient of said bullet within steps of where it is shot. Sometimes some of the bullet exits sometimes not but it is never a long tracking job either way.
Not a monometal bullet. Cup n'core.
