My Rifle Shoots 1/2 MOA at 300 yards/meters All Day! Really? Prove It!

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I figured I might as well post another challenge that is even harder than the 1/2" @ 100 yard challenge. You read the title right. The challenge is to shoot five 5 shot groups at 300 yards/meters. All the groups must be under 1/2 MOA. 1/2 moa at 300 yards is 1.570" and at 300 meters it is 1.717". This challenge is open to anyone/any rifle that feels they are capable of taking on the challenge.

Here are the requirements for the challenge:


You must shoot five 5 shot groups at 300 yards/meters

All 5 groups must be under 1/2 MOA

All 5 groups must be on the same paper

There cannot be any other groups on your "official" target

There cannot be anything on your target that could be hiding any group or bullet hole that is not part of your "official" attempt


Your post must include the following:


A pic of your rifle and the rest you used

The range you were shooting at. 300 yards or 300 meters.

A pic of your target with all 5 groups visible and the group sizes and group average written on the target

All groups must have the group size in inches as well as in MOA. to figure out MOA use this math: group size ÷ the range in yards ÷ 1.047 *** 300 meters is 328 yards***. Here is an example of a 300 meter group. 1.5" ÷ 3.28 ÷ 1.047 = .437moa

A pic of your smallest group with a set of calipers to verify the group size

Your rifle info

Your post must also have THE GROUP SIZES AND AVERAGE IN THE POST

Please put all your info into ONE POST. If you forgot anything please EDIT your post to include the missing info

ALL POSTS MUST HAVE THE REQUIRED INFO OR I WILL IGNORE THEM UNTIL ALL THE INFO IS INCLUDED IN THE POST!!!!!

Most importantly, have fun and be safe.



SMALLEST AVERAGE -------Nigolabete---Custom Savage 6BR---.255MOA
SMALLEST GROUP-----------Nigolabete---Custom Savage 6BR---.159MOA


SUCCESSFUL ATTEMPTS
Tomochan---Barnard action 6mm br
JEC------------Barnard action 30 br
rfkc-------------Custom Savage 6br Norma
cdn shooter--Custom Savage 223
rfkc-------------Custom Remington 6br Norma
Alpheus--------Custom Stiller action 6.5x47
Nigolabete-----Custom Savage 6BR
Bustercluck----Custom BAT action 6.5 Creedmoor
 
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I was back and forth on having all 5 groups under 1/2 MOA or having the 5 groups average under 1/2 MOA. I might be willing to change the requirement to be the average. Let me know what your thoughts are.
 
Well I tried and failed. Not surprised! My rifle is an Alberta Tactical Rifle custom Remington 700 chambered in 308. It has a Rock Creek barrel and sits in an Accuracy International chassis. My load consists of 155gr Berger VLD Hunting bullets.

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Here is my attempt. I was shooting at 300 yards.

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My target looks a little funky because I photo copied coloured paper and the colour copied as well.

Here are my groups

3.025" .963moa
2.865" .912moa
1.220" .388moa (smallest)
1.656" .527moa
2.128" .677moa

Average 2.179" .694moa

Here is my smallest group. 1.528"-.308"=1.22"----1.22÷3=.406"÷1.047=.388moa

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I am noticing a single flier in every group. If I can get rid of that flier I can beat this challenge.
 
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Why not make it one 10 shot group at 300 yards/meters? 25 rounds plus warm up shots sounds excessive. Also, shouldn't these "groups" have a CGN/club witness? Not that i don't believe people on the internet. Or...you could come and shoot at a recognized competition. For example...what Maynard has been offering at Cedar Springs. 300 Yards, 1 MOA, 10 shots, no pay. I believe only one or two shooters (non-ORA) in the last 2 years has made the grade.

I'm sure you could shoot at any Provincial Rifle Association practice, and have the shoot witnessed.
 
I think the challenge is perfect just the way it is. I am totally up for it - may not succeed but I think it is a great goal. Please don't make it average - that will reduced the quality of the competition.
 
Terry Perkins said:
Why not make it one 10 shot group at 300 yards/meters? 25 rounds plus warm up shots sounds excessive. Also, shouldn't these "groups" have a CGN/club witness? Not that i don't believe people on the internet. Or...you could come and shoot at a recognized competition. For example...what Maynard has been offering at Cedar Springs. 300 Yards, 1 MOA, 10 shots, no pay. I believe only one or two shooters (non-ORA) in the last 2 years has made the grade.

I'm sure you could shoot at any Provincial Rifle Association practice, and have the shoot witnessed.
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This is a true challenge!!
So many factors to deal into this.
Wind, mirage, other weather/light conditions.
When I can get out to our long range, I will
try my 6mmBR and see how it makes out. [snowed in solid for 4-6 weeks yet, lol.]
Eagleye.
 
1/2 MOA average is most realistic ..that's a long walk to decide if it's worth while to shoot the last two groups. Perhaps include a maximum group size ...say 0.75MOA? It's a "challenge", not a competiotion, so lets see some tries from those of us who are not fine tuned by competition. Don't worry, the successfull posts won't take up much room. By-the-way, are your shares in Hogdon or Berger?
 
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Tomochan said:
I think the challenge is perfect just the way it is. I am totally up for it - may not succeed but I think it is a great goal. Please don't make it average - that will reduced the quality of the competition.
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I agree, I will attempt it too and like Tomochan I may not succeed but it will be fun trying! I think this challenge will shut a lot of people up too.
 
JEC said:
1/2 MOA average is most realistic ..that's a long walk to decide if it's worth while to shoot the last two groups. Perhaps include a maximum group size ...say 0.75MOA? It's a "challenge", not a competiotion, so lets see some tries from those of us who are not fine tuned by competition. Don't worry, the successfull posts won't take up much room. By-the-way, are your shares in Hogdon or Berger?
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JEC has a point but if the target has good markings ( e.g. 1.5" circles ) and you are using good glass with adequate magnification you won't be making unnecessary walks :) Actually, in some ways this is an easier challenge that the sub half-inch at 100 so let's see some successful posts.
 
Tomochan said:
JEC has a point but if the target has good markings ( e.g. 1.5" circles ) and you are using good glass with adequate magnification you won't be making unnecessary walks :) Actually, in some ways this is an easier challenge that the sub half-inch at 100 so let's see some successful posts.
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How would this challenge be easier in some ways?
 
Tomochan said:
JEC has a point but if the target has good markings ( e.g. 1.5" circles ) and you are using good glass with adequate magnification you won't be making unnecessary walks :) Actually, in some ways this is an easier challenge that the sub half-inch at 100 so let's see some successful posts.
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I think the snow in Alberta is deeper than in Vancouver, and the trail past 100M is not well beaten down by enthusiastic shooters. The bragging rights will still go to the shooter with the best sub 1/2MOA groups..just more willing to try.
EDIT: No doubt 300M is more difficult than 100M --- look at International Benchrest Shooters results....the 200 yd (MOA) agg among the top five shooters is always larger than the 100 yd (MOA) aggs. Those would be the facts for the shooters who are among the best in the world.
 
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Underthegun said:
How would this challenge be easier in some ways?
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Sorry, perhaps I should have said 'easier for me' but to clarify, shooting 5 consecutive 5 shot groups into a half-inch or less leaves no room whatsoever for error - one small, teeny tiny lapse and it is start all over again time whereas, honestly, assuming one can shoot and has a sufficiently accurate rifle keeping 5 inside an inch and one half at 300 is for me somewhat more doable. Of course it isn't easy but the 5 inside a half inch was really tough and I say that as a guy who successfully completed the task.

It should say something that for the 300 challenge I will use a .308 - a caliber I didn't use for the 100 game.

Oh and yes - I do sympathise with JEC and the weather challenges - rain here is a pain but doesn't impede a nice stroll :)
 
UTG, an exceedingly tough challenge IF there is any wind.

For reference, the 300m ICFRA target has the V bull at 1 3/8", 5 ring 2 3/4"

So to achieve this, you would need the equivalent of a 125 and an extremely high V bull count. Depending on bullet size, closing in on 23V.

That would be some truly fine shooting indeed.

Yes, it can be done but extremely tough.

Jerry
 
I am going to shoot for MOA at 300 anything under would be awesome but.......half moa has been achieved by a small handfull of serious shooters around the world......and to do it 5 times in a row would render ones rifle far to precious to be shooting anymore for fear of wearing it out.............
 
I think its a great challenge, still looking forward to just trying to 100yard first. But the way I see it this really helps us newer shooters get an idea of what actually is realistic of our expectations, when we can see what shooters with much more experience can do.

These challenges will definitely help get me out of the shop and to the range.

It will be a really fun season, common nice weather :)
 
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