My Sandwiches Froze .....

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my power bar, chocolate almonds, granola bar & apple were also frozen. The G2 gatorade was fine though. I left the car at 8am & after a 4 hour hunt broke for lunch. The temperature was only -11c. My question for all you winter hunters is: Is there a soft thermal insert that is available for a backpack that will prevent this problem in the future? I was fricking hunger & think I chipped a molar on those frozen nuts that I tried to eat.:(
 
I just use one of those soft inexpensive six pack type summer coolers. I think I got mine years ago with a case of beer. Keeps things from freezing for hours and packs flat when MT.
 
my power bar, chocolate almonds, granola bar & apple were also frozen. The G2 gatorade was fine though. I left the car at 8am & after a 4 hour hunt broke for lunch. The temperature was only -11c. My question for all you winter hunters is: Is there a soft thermal insert that is available for a backpack that will prevent this problem in the future? I was fricking hunger & think I chipped a molar on those frozen nuts that I tried to eat.:(



just keep your food and water close to your body. idealy inside your outer layer of clothing this will gurantee it wil not freeze
 
If you have a pack, just wrap them in your extra sweater or jacket and put it in the middle of you pack. I'm going to guess they were sitting on top, near the opening or in one of the outside pouches?
 
Thanks guys, great posts. Here were the logistics:

In the past, I have put the backpack under the hunting jacket. This was primarily because it was not hunter orange. However always found it binding this way & when I get a bird or need a drink, I ended up having to take my jacket off, this could happen several times a day & slowed me down. So I got hunter orange backpack this year & everything was much better until the temp dropped this week.

Yes Castor, the sandwiches were placed on top to prevent excessive squishing, but the apple was in the middle with the nuts/bars, with two G2s at the bottom. I only take an extra Tshirt with me & change it an noon if I've sweated through it.

Since the ambient temp & I usually both warm through day, I will if anything, take off an extra layer - not feel the need to put one on. It's a 20km hunt/trek & I need to reach certain checkpoints at certain times to get out before dark .... so lunch is usually restricted to 20 minutes or so .... I will snack/drink along the way though & this is important to sustain energy.

I ended warming up my sandwich on a stump that was sitting in the sun, & cut through a chunk of energy bar with my hunting knife, then stuck in my mouth til it thawed enough to chew. Not a big deal but it's a shock to find it all so frozen in such a relatively short period of time.
 
I use a soft-side cooler for the lunch that I leave in the car, but the stuff that I carry is either freeze-proof (Oh Henry bits melt in your mouth eventually under any conditions!) or in a thermos. It's never that cold here (NS) but during late season waterfowl or sometimes on rabbit hunts I'll put a nalgene of hot tapwater in the cooler bag. Keeps things from freezing by lunchtime and is also easier on the mouth to drink (no ice-cream headaches!). Def the way to go. Might be a bit bulky for day hunts, but they do make those little ones that look like a brown-bag shape but it's a cooler bag - I've seen the tree-huggers at work with them in the cafeteria. I also use a kelly-kettle to make warm drinks, but to be honest, that's mostly because it's fun to use (a thermos is cleaner, less work and easier). I've also noticed that you can still graw on a Clif bar at -20, but Powerbar (as you found out) are hopeless. Lastly, although I don't keep all my food against my body, I do make my sandwiches with those "Burgers First" flatbreads from Superstore/Loblaws - they lie nice and flat in a breast pocket and are delicious at 37 degrees C nomatter what the weather.
-DW
 
reminds me of at work I would go to eat my lunch and everything was frozen solid and the time I thought I could take a water bottle to the green chain at -25ish it froze pretty fast haha.
 
You could try the little chemical reaction warmers designed to go in your gloves or socks. They typically cost about $2, give some warmth for 6-8 hours and can be re-used.
 
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