my Speer 180gr .303 thread.

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My parcel arrived from the LGS, "31 cal 180gr" .

Any advice loading for the Ruger #1 with these?

im likely to Try Varget first in the '308' load data book, should i experiment or advice on COAL, sit em in, or sit em out??

Thanks for pointing me don this Speer route CGN.

WL

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EDIT- sorry, trying to be cool an post a photo of said projectiles/box..... imgur being too cool for me today. hooroo :(
 
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Never heard of 31 Cal. What's with that?

For a Ruger #1, I would seat long, into the rifling, and then adjust deeper and deeper so bullet is off the rifling.

I would do my load development with the bullet off the rifling, and then fine tune by trying 20 thou shorter and longer.
 
I put those though my mosin with rl 16, shoots moa with three different charge weights I tried. I'm sure they will do well for you, they seem to be a great bang for buck bullet
 
I shoot those bullets in my 1910 Ross, 303 British.
My pet loads are either 44 grains of Norma 202 or
44 grains of IMR 4320. Work up from below, please.
Dave.
 
You probably would not even notice the difference. .003" is not likely to overpressure anything with a C&C bullet. :) Dave.

Ya know, ive often wondered about that for some "shot out" 30 cals like 308s or 3006s where a farmer say couldnt or didnt wanna afford a new rifle for whatever reason an to keep a 3006 going, run .311 or even corelokts which may even be .310 or i may be wrong on that but another reasonable brand i thought was .310 ish!


been busy tanning and taxi dermin, to shoot rounds, thatl come soon :)

keen though


$72 /100 here... hows that duouble the price
 
I shot some 310 milsurp bullets in my Garand last week. Did not help accuracy.

A slightly fatter bullet, in itself is not a big deal. What IS a big deal is neck clearance. When the round fires, the neck has to be able to expand to release the bullet.

If the fat bullet pushes the neck tight against the chamber, you can have a pipe bomb.

measure the neck OD of a fired case, and then the neck OD of a loaded round with the fat bullet. If the loaded round is smaller, you are GTG.
 
Now Gents, I dont know it is was the Tweaking of the Bolts, the clearing of some wood, the aid of some plastic to raise the barrel from the screw, or the fact the rifle doesnt mind the old Speer hot cor 180grain projie.........
the reason i say this is, in early initial testing, the friggen gun shoots straight for 1......... and theres holes kind of near each other after each shot.............. which is unheard of LOL.


i am almost.... in love again and it is just in time! im sick of luggin my A bolt in close quater bush hunting and feel its really single shot #1 country...

its sighted in to use the 174 Woodleighs, but i test at 100m today before the rain stopped me, the 180 SPEER shoot about 6 inches lower (velocity proberly)? but vertically no worries at all.

I tested only 2 powder charge loads x3 shots , an not in conditions or methods worth mentioning on CGN haha to avoid the drama :D

now its raining i will Re load the last charge i got to test and maybe a .5 more to test with the next 1gr up.

excited.

BTW- the little 303 Barks with varget an 180s.
 
I found with my #1 in .303 Brit, that if I used starting loads for the .308 Winchester, and worked my way up I usually garnered good results about 1/2 to 3/4 Of the way to top .308 Win loads.
 
I found with my #1 in .303 Brit, that if I used starting loads for the .308 Winchester, and worked my way up I usually garnered good results about 1/2 to 3/4 Of the way to top .308 Win loads.

hey mate i posted this in anotehr thread, forgot about here.

i did so, an i think it lieks it somewhere here.
do you think is possible.... to be fairly tight, then to blow out with 1-2 gr each side?

i am going to re test 41-41.5 and 42 grains.

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I found with my #1 in .303 Brit, that if I used starting loads for the .308 Winchester, and worked my way up I usually garnered good results about 1/2 to 3/4 Of the way to top .308 Win loads.

Do you think this is due to the base of the projectile fattening up with the pressure???
 
I got to re test the 41-41.5 -42 gr charges and the best i got today was 3.5 inch with 5x shots, same sort of pattern as above, two close an one high, it was looking good for 3 shots with this range but i wanted to burn some powder and see how it would go with a multitude of shots on one target with the 3 charges, i ended up shooting 5x 41gr, 5x 41.5 and 4x 42gr ,

i also wrote on the target - "bush gun- point shoot" so , i am going to maaayybeee test seating depth with 41.5, an otherwise load up 41.5 and have it shoot to "bang on at 100" an be done..... farkkk that
 
OP, your rifle is strong enough to handle even the heaviest MAGNUM LOADS. Yes, it's possible to load the 303 Brit cartridge to pressures that might cause the action to fail, but I believe your barrel would fail first. I was lucky enough to witness a test done on a Ruger No1 action, by a gunsmith that was curious about how much abuse it could handle.

He couldn't get it to fail but he did rupture two barrels. The cartridge was the 300 win. mag.

I really like the Ruger No1 action.

I believe that the factory Ruger No1 rifles were made with .310 bores.

The 7.62x54 round has velocities almost identical to the 308 Win, with the 180 grain bullets. I would use that info as a guide.

The real limitation on your rifle is going to be with full length resized cases. Most 303 brass is made for the lower pressures utilized in most weaker milsurp actions.

If you neck size only, then you won't be working the brass as much and setting up a possible case separation. This will also allow you to increase your loads or use the appropriate powders that will give you the velocities you're looking for.
 
OP, your rifle is strong enough to handle even the heaviest MAGNUM LOADS.

If you neck size only, then you won't be working the brass as much and setting up a possible case separation. This will also allow you to increase your loads or use the appropriate powders that will give you the velocities you're looking for.

i picture this well and hear you mate, im not so much chasen velocity with this bastard, more just to have it consistantly shoot 3 shots without being unrealistic.

i give up on that inch group well and truely, hence i will settle with this load an realise one in three wont be exact - using it only for 'big game' intentions in a bush stalking scenerio where the only other odd animal to shoot will be a Wild Dog and the typical across gulley shot is off the cards if over 200-250m,
I've shot the similiar performing 174 ppsn load to 300m , its do able for sure but keeping in mind that one in three might go astray (typically higher) means i wouldnt be gung ho about that distance.


Good to be reassured in the Rugers capability though, assuming all the actions are made of the same specs? ive never really looked into that..
appreciate it mate
 
I have a Ruger No1, custom chambered in 338-06.

It has a medium weight Shilen match grade barrel that is 24 inches long, with a home made muzzle brake, because I'm recoil shy.

I really like this rifle, but it's going to be looking for a new home soon. I'm getting long in the tooth and my month long hunting trips for Northern Moose and Elk are now behind me.

I hunt around home now, 100 klik trips are about as far as I go on my own anymore.

This particular rifle has one issue that is COMMON to Ruger No1 rifles. It will shoot the first two bullets, touching each other at 100 yards, from a cold barrel. It will hold a moa right out to 400 yards, if I do my part.

Now, the third or follow up shot, is a whole different beast. I can guarantee it will impact an inch high at 100 yards and an inch and a half high at 200 and more at longer ranges. The fourth shot will stay in the same general area but where, is anyone's guess. It may be high, low or somewhere else, but still within a couple of moa of point of aim.

When I purchased that barrel, I paid extra for proper heat treatment, so this problem would be minimal.

The chamber is reamed with my personal reamer, ground to minimum specs, except for the neck. The throat is tight and only long enough to take a 225 grn Hornady spire point loaded with the base at the bottom of the neck. With a bore diameter of that size, a few extra grains isn't going to make any difference that will be noticeable in the field or at the range.

I've shot a lot of game with that rifle. Thankfully none of them required a third shot to put them down permanently.

I also have a No1 with a factory, heavy match bbl, chambered in 223 Rem. It has almost the same issue.

I have glass bedded the fore ends, added screws to the fore end tang to put upward pressure on the bbl. Cut away the wood on the fore end where it might touch the receiver and even added extra pressure to the fore end tip, as well as complete free floating, with the fore end only touching the mounting tang.

I have bedded the butt stock as they often loosen up to the point of cracking. Lightened trigger pull to around two pounds, soldered on the scope bases to the barrel etc.

Nothing worked. That's the nature of the beast.

I have a hunting acquaintance that has a No1 chambered in 6mm Remington. That rifle is 45 years old and shoots really tight ten shot groups at all ranges.

He was kind enough to lend it to me, so that I could check out why. It shouldn't have shot any better than my rifles but it did and still does, even after a couple of thousand rounds.

I even went so far as to take off the barrels and retorque them. Checked out the cases on an optical profiler for square and done chamber casts to make sure the chamber is cut square to the axis of the bore.

NADA.

They're still both very useful rifles for the purposes I use them. Heavy game and Coyotes, where I'm not shooting strings for grouping.

You certainly aren't the only person that's noticed Ruger No1 rifles can be inconsistent after the first 2-3 shots. Then again, that isn't what they were designed for.

Back in the day, when Ruger was getting inferior barrels from a cut rate supplier, a lot of their rifles had accuracy issues and the only fix, was to scrap the barrels and install an aftermarket barrel of good quality.

Ruger started out as "affordable" rifles for the masses. It took them a while to get their quality up to par with their competition. I can't really comment on their latest offerings, other than several folks I know really like them.
 
Bro, i appreciate that post, You are on the same page manm ive not gone to extremes an as mentioned earlier am going no further...
GREAT to hear your storie about the gun and ruger 1s you;ve known!!!

my target shows that but not the touching part...

I wholeheartedly understand the purpose of a Ruger 1 an that aint shootin strings of rounds at game or target.... one shot, one kill , per say.

Thank you.
 
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