My take on the SL8.
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Which Leupold would you recommend? and what rings? there seem to be quite a few that will work.
The only reason I was going to go with the Bushnell is to try ands keep the price from getting out of hand on me. After the HK bipod (240 bucks), 2400 bucks, trying to keep her shy of 3000.
The only reason I was going to go with the Bushnell is to try ands keep the price from getting out of hand on me. After the HK bipod (240 bucks), 2400 bucks, trying to keep her shy of 3000.
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I have the VX1 2-7x33 and its quite nice for the price. IIRC I used low rings but it may have been medium. I'm not partial to brands when it comes to rings so get what you like and whatever height keeps the scope you choose as low as possible. You don't need really high end rings on the SL8 as the recoil is so light, just get a decient set.
Personally I'm not a fan of Bushnell the glass is soso at best unless you get into the 4200 series IMHO. There are better options then the 3200 series out there in that price range. I've heard some people have been unhappy with the bushy warrantee as well. You get what you pay for, but that said I paid less then $300 with taxes for my Leupold.
Personally I'm not a fan of Bushnell the glass is soso at best unless you get into the 4200 series IMHO. There are better options then the 3200 series out there in that price range. I've heard some people have been unhappy with the bushy warrantee as well. You get what you pay for, but that said I paid less then $300 with taxes for my Leupold.
See my problem is I can get a bushnell with a 40mm lens and higher magnification for less, and its not a huge recoil firearm.
Really I would love a Nikon scope, but they are too expensive here, and risky to ship from the states.
But get the lowest rings that will keep the scope from touching? why is this?
Really I would love a Nikon scope, but they are too expensive here, and risky to ship from the states.
But get the lowest rings that will keep the scope from touching? why is this?
There was a time when I would agree with you but better glass will often make up for magnification and bell size. Not to mention a ton of magnification is more about marketing then actual benefit. IIRC the US mil snipers use a fixed 10x on the .50, taking very long shots. A quality piece will make up for bells and whistles.
Ideally you want the scope to be as close to the bore as possible, especially on a precision rig such as the SL8. So rings that lift the scope higher then it needs be take away for the accuracy of the gun. Same with a larger bell. With the SL8 you need to keep in mind that the weaver rail extends past the scope so you want a ring that will place the bottom of the bell just above the top of the rail.
Trust me you want a scope that will match the quality of the rifle. If watch the EE or save up for new you will be happier then having an OK scope on a top end rifle that you will just change for better later at more cost.
ok, I ended up looking at luepolds, and I think I like the Mark 4 4.5-14x40mm LR/T Target.
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I would rather have a Nikon 4-16 x 50SF Monarch though, but I can't seem to find anyone in Canada that has them. Its cheaper, and I IMO the Nikon glass is the best. And its 50mm instead of 40, and I get a bit more magnification.
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I would rather have a Nikon 4-16 x 50SF Monarch though, but I can't seem to find anyone in Canada that has them. Its cheaper, and I IMO the Nikon glass is the best. And its 50mm instead of 40, and I get a bit more magnification.
I seem to recall the Zeiss Conquest has a lifetime warranty. I'd have to double check (I haven't filled out the warranty cards yet).
The one I have on the PE-90 is a Conquest 6.5-20x 50mm with the Rapid Z varmint reticle, it's mounted with Zeiss (Warne made) quick release rings. I use the 1000 yard reticle for my .308 rifles.
Varmint reticle:
1000 yard reticle for .308:
The one I have on the PE-90 is a Conquest 6.5-20x 50mm with the Rapid Z varmint reticle, it's mounted with Zeiss (Warne made) quick release rings. I use the 1000 yard reticle for my .308 rifles.
Varmint reticle:
1000 yard reticle for .308:
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It seems to work very well. Not sure exactly what you were asking.
Also as Superathepeg stated you want your scope mounted as close to the bore as you can. With these types of rifles you're off the bore anyways due to the handguards and piston systems. So the closer you can get the better. Here's my PE-90 with scope mounted as close as possible.
Here's a close up:
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Hmm not sure. I only use it for hold overs. I use a Laser range finder for ranging. The end of the thicker lines and dots on the sides are for wind hold overs.
I'm going to guess that they are for hold overs only. Since it's a varmint scope and not a "tactical". Same for the 1000 yard since it's for longer range target shooting and not a "tactical" reticle.
Jeff000
I checked out the user manual. something I hate doing. Yup it has ranging. The little marks above and to the sides of the main crosshair are for ranging.
From the manual
Ranging:
"Your Rapid-Z reicle also comes with an integrated ranging system etched into the reticle. Note: All ranging must be done with the riflescope set on the maximum magnification setting regardless of the scope model or reticle choice. The ranging hash marks represent 2 inches at 100 yards. At the top and bottom of the ranging scale, hashmarks are divided by 1/2 inch increments. Therefore you can range any target of known size such as a whitetail deer's brisket = 18" or elk = 24". Simply divide the known size of the animal by the total number of inches covered , and multiply the sum by 100 for the range to target.
By the way I forgot to mention the reticle is etched not wire.
Anyways another scope to consider for the SL8.
I checked out the user manual. something I hate doing. Yup it has ranging. The little marks above and to the sides of the main crosshair are for ranging.
From the manual
Ranging:
"Your Rapid-Z reicle also comes with an integrated ranging system etched into the reticle. Note: All ranging must be done with the riflescope set on the maximum magnification setting regardless of the scope model or reticle choice. The ranging hash marks represent 2 inches at 100 yards. At the top and bottom of the ranging scale, hashmarks are divided by 1/2 inch increments. Therefore you can range any target of known size such as a whitetail deer's brisket = 18" or elk = 24". Simply divide the known size of the animal by the total number of inches covered , and multiply the sum by 100 for the range to target.
By the way I forgot to mention the reticle is etched not wire.
Anyways another scope to consider for the SL8.
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Received my SL8 last week, and it seems to be a very nice rifle alright. 
Haven't done any serious group shooting, but the first 5 quick rounds off the bipod went into ~1.5" at 100m, so it looks like it'll be more than accurate enough for my uses.
I'm not too sure about the dual sight system yet. I like the concept and the scope itself, but the ultra-close eye relief is going to take some getting used to. The red dot is like looking through a tunnel, although with both eyes open it superimposes on the target quite well so with a bit of practice it should work out well also. Some way to keep dust off the lenses would be handy, so I'll have to see if I can get a formed/sewn cover made for them somehow.
Handling/ergonomics seem quite nice for me, with the only oddity being the lack of a bolt release. The trigger is very very nice, and having all of the brass land in a neat little pile is kinda cool too. One nice feature of the thumbhole stock is that it holds an earplug case and two allen wrenches nice and snugly, so they're with the rifle at all times.
Now for the questions...
- What would be a good sling/mount for general carry? The HK sling seems a bit pricey, but then nothing else I've seen will attach to the factory eyelets (swivels?).
- Is there a less expensive alternative to the $180 magwell adapter available? Or will the HERA mag adapter be the way to go when they're available?
- Do I want/need the HK multi-tool?
- Any other "gotta have" items I should be looking for?
Thanks for convincing me to get one of these.
Haven't done any serious group shooting, but the first 5 quick rounds off the bipod went into ~1.5" at 100m, so it looks like it'll be more than accurate enough for my uses.I'm not too sure about the dual sight system yet. I like the concept and the scope itself, but the ultra-close eye relief is going to take some getting used to. The red dot is like looking through a tunnel, although with both eyes open it superimposes on the target quite well so with a bit of practice it should work out well also. Some way to keep dust off the lenses would be handy, so I'll have to see if I can get a formed/sewn cover made for them somehow.
Handling/ergonomics seem quite nice for me, with the only oddity being the lack of a bolt release. The trigger is very very nice, and having all of the brass land in a neat little pile is kinda cool too. One nice feature of the thumbhole stock is that it holds an earplug case and two allen wrenches nice and snugly, so they're with the rifle at all times.
Now for the questions...
- What would be a good sling/mount for general carry? The HK sling seems a bit pricey, but then nothing else I've seen will attach to the factory eyelets (swivels?).
- Is there a less expensive alternative to the $180 magwell adapter available? Or will the HERA mag adapter be the way to go when they're available?
- Do I want/need the HK multi-tool?
- Any other "gotta have" items I should be looking for?
Thanks for convincing me to get one of these.
Hey Harv,
The dual sight system is more of a collectors thing then really useful. Mostly cause the red dot is in an unnatural position and way too small. You could likely get $700 for it on the EE and invest that money into a much better variable power optic that would give you quick acquisition and accuracy at range.
You could always get yourself a G36 or aftermarket bolt release to replace the BHOD that is on the SL8. This is one of the few things I wouldn't mind getting for my rifle in the future.
You can find slings with HK quick release hooks on the internet but I'm a lefty so I baught a set of these and I'm going to use a single point sling.
The magwell adaptor is what it is. There are other options but I couldn't find anyone that was willing to send one up here. So for the time being you're stuck with the one Wolverine has. The surge in the USD is going to drive the cost of everything made outside Canada up, so you're kinda stuck.
The HK multi tool is nice for taking down the rifle and servicing it. If you want one get one or just put together a tool kit like you would for any other rifle.
And finally, you're welcome.
The dual sight system is more of a collectors thing then really useful. Mostly cause the red dot is in an unnatural position and way too small. You could likely get $700 for it on the EE and invest that money into a much better variable power optic that would give you quick acquisition and accuracy at range.
You could always get yourself a G36 or aftermarket bolt release to replace the BHOD that is on the SL8. This is one of the few things I wouldn't mind getting for my rifle in the future.
You can find slings with HK quick release hooks on the internet but I'm a lefty so I baught a set of these and I'm going to use a single point sling.
The magwell adaptor is what it is. There are other options but I couldn't find anyone that was willing to send one up here. So for the time being you're stuck with the one Wolverine has. The surge in the USD is going to drive the cost of everything made outside Canada up, so you're kinda stuck.
The HK multi tool is nice for taking down the rifle and servicing it. If you want one get one or just put together a tool kit like you would for any other rifle.
And finally, you're welcome.
Which one? Far as I know there are 4 meant for the g36.
This one I don't know anthing about pricing, I have never seen one for sale.
These go for about $500-600 in the us. Up here I would expect to pay in the $700 range.
These rails have integrated irons (same as the SL8-5 BUIS only integrated into the rail so they sit lower) and they go for $100-$150 depending where you look in the US.
IIRC these are available in either 3x or 1.5x fixed power and I think they go for between $300-400 in the US.
There is also the SL8-6 rail in the US that is simular to the SL8-4 rail except it is made of aluminum, offers better access to the cocking handle and sits a bit higher. I just picked one up for $100 USD and its en route.
Nice review,
Obviously you,ve given this alot of thought. And the good thing about opinions is everyone's got one. I've had the Sig, I've had the HK and I'm on my Second AR. (had the 1st AR before the SIG and HK)
Your talking about shooting a clay bird at 100,,,,,,, you concider this good????
I'm shooting thumbtacks at 100 with the Rock River (factory set up) and I'm doing it with a rig that's a fraction of the cost of the HK.
The trigger is a plastic p.o.s. , wrap your finger around a good 1.5oz jewel or a 2 oz Kelbly and find out what a trigger is. Even the aftermarket AR triggers are decent now a days.
The group size changes with the weather and rumour has it if you rapid fire the HK they split in 2, Mine didn't but that's the first thing someone will check if your selling it to em.
If you are buying one cause they look cool then you,ll get your money's worth cause they do, but just don't expect any world class accuracy out of one.
The one good thing is they,'re not restricted so if you wanna hunt you could,,,, all you need is a REALLY LARGE ground hog that is sleeping in the sun, that way you can sneak up REALLY close so you can at least scare him, if not actually hit em.
Couldn't wait to sell mine. Was really disappointed.
btw, how big is a clay bird now a days,,,,, bout 4.5-5 " across isn't it....... at 100 yds, laff.
M.
Obviously you,ve given this alot of thought. And the good thing about opinions is everyone's got one. I've had the Sig, I've had the HK and I'm on my Second AR. (had the 1st AR before the SIG and HK)
Your talking about shooting a clay bird at 100,,,,,,, you concider this good????
I'm shooting thumbtacks at 100 with the Rock River (factory set up) and I'm doing it with a rig that's a fraction of the cost of the HK.
The trigger is a plastic p.o.s. , wrap your finger around a good 1.5oz jewel or a 2 oz Kelbly and find out what a trigger is. Even the aftermarket AR triggers are decent now a days.
The group size changes with the weather and rumour has it if you rapid fire the HK they split in 2, Mine didn't but that's the first thing someone will check if your selling it to em.
If you are buying one cause they look cool then you,ll get your money's worth cause they do, but just don't expect any world class accuracy out of one.
The one good thing is they,'re not restricted so if you wanna hunt you could,,,, all you need is a REALLY LARGE ground hog that is sleeping in the sun, that way you can sneak up REALLY close so you can at least scare him, if not actually hit em.
Couldn't wait to sell mine. Was really disappointed.
btw, how big is a clay bird now a days,,,,, bout 4.5-5 " across isn't it....... at 100 yds, laff.
M.
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