My take on the Uberti 1873 Cattleman SAA

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I picked up an Uberti 1873 Cattleman in 45Colt along with a 22LR drop-in conversion kit from Wolverine Supplies. Honestly, I wasn't planning on buying any new firearms for a while but the 2014 prices were too good to pass up. Originally I wanted the El Patron which was $15 cheaper but I sat on the fence too long (about 6mts too long) and someone beat me to it by a day! Mea culpa!

Here's my take on the Cattleman so far.

The Pros
After taking the opening the box and removing it from the plastic bag, it sure is a sight to behold. That colourful, mottled patina of the case hardened frame and the rich charcoal blue of the barrel, grip frame, trigger and cylinder just jumps out at you. It's just beautiful.

The Uberti Cattleman are well-built for the most part. I mean, they just feel solid in your hands and nothing rattles around. The grips are a little on the wider side and smooth compared to the slimmer, checkered El Patron grips. I have slimmer, medium sized hands and I don't mind the size of the stock grips. I just figured the checkered grips would be nice and offer better grip and I have no clue on where to purchase the El Patron grips.

Seeing that it's a Colt clone, I'm assuming that any Colt grips should technically fit? Hogue wood grips are an option but I've had some quality issues with the ones I got for my Vaquero and that's left a bitter taste in my mouth. First set were the wrong grips in the correct packaging and I got questioned on it until they finally decided to replace them. Then they sent some piss poor fitting ones which I had to send back. The replacements fit better but still not great. Anyhow, I digress...

Cocking the 4-stage hammer sounded cool. CLICK CLICK CLICK CLICK... or C-O-L-T. As cool as it sounded, it was a little on the gritty side but not terrible. The cylinder timing on my gun is bang on as the locking notches on the cylinder lined up perfectly with the locking lug. The trigger had a very tiny amount of creep but broke pretty crisp at 3.5lbs with THE tiniest amount of grit. It felt more like 5lbs but the trigger scale insisted it was 3.5lbs.

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The Cons
If one was to nit-pick, here are the things that might bother some folks. I wasn't expecting a $600. gun to be anywhere like a $1500 Colt original but I figured I should mention them.

The frame has some sharp edges to it. You won't normally notice it with the cylinder in place but if you rub your finer around the cylinder opening on the frame, it almost feels like a knife edge.

Working the ejector rod was not smooth out of the box. It would hang up consistently in either direction. I thought I noticed slight rusting in the ejector rod housing but that was just discolouration. The edge of the barrel, the cylinder and ejector rod holes were all sharp with light burrs on the latter. I discovered the burr on the frame too late and I'd already scraped the charcoal bluing off one side of the ejector rod. Not a biggie since it would eventually wear down on its own and not like it's noticeable.

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Next is the finish. As gorgeous as that charcoal blue looks, I've read that it is not very durable and prone to wear, not to mention, it's only temporary as the heat from shooting will eventually darken it. That said, out of the box, there were some scuffs around the cylinder face and side and some minor ones around the barrel as highlighted in the pics. Again, not a deal breaker for me but I know some folks are picky about these things.

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I'm not a big fan of the rounded trigger. It just doesn't "feel" right to me. I guess having shot my Ruger New Vaquero for the last 3yrs has me conditioned to a slightly wider, flatter trigger.

The hammer style is one with the high spur and if you have somewhat medium sized hands, I find it difficult to side thumb #### the hammer if shooting one handed. I may order a shorter hammer like the ones on the El Patron Competition model which is like a Montado or Super Blackhawk hammer.

Not so drop-in 45LC to 22LR Conversion kit

Well, it turns out that my drop-in 22LR conversion isn't really a drop-in. Heck, I didn't know they even made 22LR conversion kits until I happened to stumble on it by accident on Wolverine's site. The only two mini-reviews I found on Google claimed they worked fine and were true drop-in and shoot. Well, not so much drop-in for me. The cylinder was a snug fit to get into my frame and was stiff to begin with but cycled okay after that. My hammer can go to the quarter #### and half-#### fine but it will not go to full-#### and engage the sear ie, the hammer will not stay fully cocked and will drop back to half-####.

I'm not that adept at SAA pistols to diagnose the problem but from the very little I can find, I think the cylinder locking lug is not being depressed enough to allow the sear to be engaged? Just my wild guess.

When I removed the cylinder, I noticed some wear on the bluing on the back of it and I realized that the gunsmith who worked on the frame did an ever so slightly uneven grinding on the front right side of the recoil shield by the loading gate. I could file down the high spot but doing so, I'll end up removing the finish. GRRRRR!!

Well, the conversion kit is officially no longer new so I can't return it. I'll see if I can get it going, else it may end up in the EE or back of the gun cabinet.

Conclusion
The Uberti Cattleman seems like a good pistol for someone looking to get that nostalgic feel of the old cowboy era without breaking the wallet. Unlike the Ruger New Vaquero, the Cattleman SAA replica is closer to that of the real Colt. However, there are a few Cattleman models that incorporate the safety transfer bar like the modern Vaquero. Nothing takes you back to the old spaghetti westerns than the distinct four clicks of a Colt 1873 hammer being cocked.

Having spent the last couple of nights playing with the pistol, the grittyness of the hammer and trigger has diminished a bit. I've carefully dehorned the sharp edges/burr from the cylinder and ejection rod holes on the frame. The ejector rod now no longer gets hung up when worked, if anything it's partially the spring that's causing some very minor binding.

The rich charcoal blue and case hardened frame finish are gorgeous except for the odd blemish that makes for a bit of an eyesore for anyone looking for perfection. The blemishes doesn't really bother me because I know I'll probably impart my own after a few range visits. If blemishes do bug you, I'd suggest looking at the Stainless Steel model. It's a shame that the frame was not fully dehorned before the case hardened finish was applied. Keep in mind that this is a $600 pistol and not a $1500. original Colt. I guess that's one way how they keep their costs down. I wonder if the El Patron series or Piettas are fully dehorned...

I have a Wolff reduced power spring kit and the slightly wider target trigger ordered. I'll also do some polishing and dehorning of some parts when I open her up and I'll post my findings when I do.
 
I got the El Patron from wolverine , last year . $650. Mine had none of the issues you mentioned. When you say the Cattleman is $15 more , is than including the conversion? My buddy has the vaquero and I find its bulky and awkward. I was going to get one , but glad I didn't. I've been using mine for a yr now without any issues other than the screw on the trigger guard? Keep an eye on that one as it backs out easily . And you may want to adjust the ejecter rod screw a bit tighter.
 
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My first SAA was only an error beause of the 44mag heavy recoil...
Would i have bought a 45 LC, i am sure i would not have sell it, they are pretty nice SAA for less money...
Nice one Trinimon, should be a fun shooter... JP.
 
My first SAA was only an error beause of the 44mag heavy recoil...
Would i have bought a 45 LC, i am sure i would not have sell it, they are pretty nice SAA for less money...
Nice one Trinimon, should be a fun shooter... JP.

LOL, thanks JP. The Uberti is nice, just nowhere as slick and fine tuned as your shiny new Colt LB, I'm sure!

I got the El Patron from wolverine , last year . $650. Mine had none of the issues you mentioned. When you say the Cattleman is $15 more , is than including the conversion? My buddy has the vaquero and I find its bulky and awkward. I was going to get one , but glad I didn't. I've been using mine for a yr now without any issues other than the screw on the trigger guard? Keep an eye on that one as it backs out easily . And you may want to adjust the ejecter rod screw a bit tighter.

There was an El Patron in 45LC for $615. (or was that $630?) up until the day before I bought my regular Cattleman for $630. Kicking myself big time 'casue I had the darn thing in my shopping cart ready to check out and told myself to sleep on it to make sure I wanted it the next day. The conversion kit was $179.

Thanks for the tip on the screws. I'll tighten 'em all down with some loctite after I do a full strip to polish up some parts and upgrade the springs and trigger. I've read that there's quite a but of tool marks/chatter in the insides of the frame.
 
The next SAA revolver i will get is the birdhead 45LC style Doc Holloday, i like this one... JP.
 
I usually put a 150 rnds through per trip and all the screws loose a little but that trigger guard screw is the worst. I must of got a Wednesday gun:) it is perfect finish. Have fun they shoot excellent.
 
I bought a Taylor&Co Uberti 1873 Cattleman last fall used. It was made in 2015 and it is flawless. The trigger is exceptional and the finish makes me want to keep it as a safe queen because its so nice.
 
I bought a Taylor&Co Uberti 1873 Cattleman last fall used. It was made in 2015 and it is flawless. The trigger is exceptional and the finish makes me want to keep it as a safe queen because its so nice.

Gosh darn it! Lucky me I guess. Story of my life... picking lemons even if someone picks 'em for me. lol
 
Well ya get what ya pay for (and even that isn't true half the time) - but if I were to burn up a pistol on the range punching paper I would rather it be a Uberti than a pristine Colt! And - there's a lot of scuffed Uberti's kicking around that still look great!

There used to be this old duffer on Youtube that was an ace at tuning and tweaking Uberti guns...Dueliist? Can't remember - but he may have a vid up on slicking up your gun a bit. I did his mods to my cap n ball 1860 Army and that think is slicker than snot on a doorknob now! These guns can shoot too!
 
Well ya get what ya pay for (and even that isn't true half the time) - but if I were to burn up a pistol on the range punching paper I would rather it be a Uberti than a pristine Colt! And - there's a lot of scuffed Uberti's kicking around that still look great!

There used to be this old duffer on Youtube that was an ace at tuning and tweaking Uberti guns...Dueliist? Can't remember - but he may have a vid up on slicking up your gun a bit. I did his mods to my cap n ball 1860 Army and that think is slicker than snot on a doorknob now! These guns can shoot too!

LOL, yup, makes a lot of sense. I like an old SAA with some character. I know this one isn't going to be a safe queen. I've been doing a bit of Youtube surf'n and finding some good tips etc. I played with my Cattleman last night again while watching TV and the action is getting smoother each time. I think after I do a full strip and cleaning up, it'll be mint.

I wonder why Uberti discontinued the 45ACP cylinder for the 45LC Cattleman...
 
My Pietta SAA was amazing. 100% awesome all around.
I notice that anyone who does a review of them only finds cons in the microscopic relm of rubbing marks and "rough edges" like you said.

At the end of the day you buy a Pietta SAA if you want to own a solid, very well built old school revolver for around $500 that you plan to actually shoot.
Or you buy a Colt SAA if you want to own a solid, very well built old school revolver that has a 0.5% better finishing touches on it for $2,000.
It wasn't even an option when I was considering my first SAA. That's A LOT more money for ammo!
 
Travis Bickel.....I agree totally with you......I loved the build, great blueing, brass trigger guard and heft....I had the 44 mag version...I regret selling it...and I will have another...great value for money..
 
Dopn't get me wrong though, with that being said, if I had a million dollars I would own an actual vintage early 1900's Colt SAA with a 7.5" barrel in .45LC just because of the amazing history of the item! lol
But I'm a simple man with not a lot of cash to throw around :D
 
You finally got one, great!

Let me know when you are bringing it to the club. I'll bring mine and we can shoot some black powder cartridges.

LOL, yeah I caved. I kept recalling how cool your's was to shoot and I wasn't getting that same feeling with my 357 Vaquero. I'll bring my Marlin 1894 in 44Mag as well for ya to give it a whirl. Going old school cowboy. :)
 
I have two Ubertis and am very pleased with them. Awesome function and finish. The 44-40 Cattleman is so fun to use and the 38 SPL Stallion actually makes the round feel sorta powerful. I love case hardened frames! Enjoy your 45 LC!
 
I have two Ubertis and am very pleased with them. Awesome function and finish. The 44-40 Cattleman is so fun to use and the 38 SPL Stallion actually makes the round feel sorta powerful. I love case hardened frames! Enjoy your 45 LC!

Thanks. Waiting for some brass to come in to start building some loads. :)
 
Just thought I'd toss this out there...

Uberti discontinued selling the 45ACP cylinder under the Uberti name. Turns out the parent company Taylor's & Co still carries it and the cheapest of all the places I've checked AND they ship to Canada!

I've ordered a 45ACP cylinder (part #U0402005) and a cylinder bushing (part #U0400187) for my Cattleman. From what I've read, there's only a little bit of fitting required to get that 45ACP cylinder working. I've also found an ebay seller that sells the "Man With No Name" snake inlay so I ordered an unfinished wood grip (part #U0000011G) and I'll make my own.

I'll post an update once I get the parts. Fingers crossed they have the parts in stock.
 
I didn't know that T&Co shipped parts to us. Just kind of assumed that they didn't.

I'm curious as to the fitting of a new cylinder and what it requires.
 
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