My Webley MP trigger return spring broke Update Gun Fixed

[Moe]

It is a Webley MP 2.5 inch in 450 Adams. I tried at the advice of Chris from an antique guns company in AB to make one from bonding strap material, but it didn't work. Wondering if I could make one from Wolff Springs Webley MK latch spring? Any advice out there is welcome.

Cheers
Moe

 

[Ashcroft]

It's a simple straightforward job for any real gunsmith to make a new spring for you, and if you have all the broken parts they may only need these to copy and not the whole gun. You can try making one yourself but you will need to use the correct grade of steel and you will need to correctly harden and temper your finished product. Yours might not last long, the gunsmith's will. Which do you want, good or cheap?

 

[Moe]

Thanks for the advice Ashcroft. I will do that.

Cheers
Moe

 

[mooncoon]

I make 5 or 10 springs a year; I make them almost exclusively from drill rod, usually 3/8 diameter and heat the rod red hot and hammer it to thickness. I anneal the material in wood ash and after filing and shaping and fitting, heat the material red hot and water quench. That leaves the metal brittle hard and I draw the temper to 740 F approximately in molten lead. In the absence of a high temperature thermometer, you can float a thin piece of steel on top of the lead and when the pot heats to the point that the metal is just transitioning from dark blue to grey, pull the plug and keep the spring immersed in the lead for another 2 to 3 minutes. Your biggest problem will probably be having a heat source hot enough. I use a cutting torch with propane instead of acetylene

cheers mooncoon

 

[Moe]

Thanks mooncoon. I have discovered a source. Surprisingly Wolff springs makes a variety of sizes in a gunsmiths pack for a good price. That is my next plan of action.

Cheers
Moe

 

[Moe]

Well because the US export permit expired for Wolff they cannot send me the springs. Will keep looking. The Wolff 7A should work if anyone has one to spare. Will sacrifice a kidney for one at this point. jk

Cheers
Moe

 

[gunzik]

While Wolff won't ship the trigger return spring, Dixie Gun Parts will. Same price, but shipping costs will be fun. You will probably still need to fit the spring.

Once you get an idea of price, with work still left to do (I suggest buying two or three springs, since shipping will still be more) ... you may want to revisit the idea of having a spring made for you.

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

I make 5 or 10 springs a year; I make them almost exclusively from drill rod, usually 3/8 diameter and heat the rod red hot and hammer it to thickness. I anneal the material in wood ash and after filing and shaping and fitting, heat the material red hot and water quench. That leaves the metal brittle hard and I draw the temper to 740 F approximately in molten lead. In the absence of a high temperature thermometer, you can float a thin piece of steel on top of the lead and when the pot heats to the point that the metal is just transitioning from dark blue to grey, pull the plug and keep the spring immersed in the lead for another 2 to 3 minutes. Your biggest problem will probably be having a heat source hot enough. I use a cutting torch with propane instead of acetylene

cheers mooncoon

Watch a 15-minute video or read a 30-second CGN post. Which is more informative?

 

[Moe]

While Wolff won't ship the trigger return spring, Dixie Gun Parts will. Same price, but shipping costs will be fun. You will probably still need to fit the spring.

Once you get an idea of price, with work still left to do (I suggest buying two or three springs, since shipping will still be more) ... you may want to revisit the idea of having a spring made for you.

I couldn't find a Dixie Gun Parts. I did find a Dixie Gun Works but was unable to find a spring there of the type. Can you be more specific?

Cheers
Moe

 

[Moe]

Here is a pic of the spring roughly placed to represent how it looks before it snapped. It is 1/4" wide.

Cheers
Moe

 

[Moe]

**Update** A great thank you goes out to Gun hog, a member here was able to manufacture and install a new spring for the Webley. It works as good great. Thanks to all that reached out to help me with this like 257Wby who set me on Gun hog.

Cheers
Moe

 

[hopkin]

Made a few trigger return V springs with these binder clips and a Dremel cut off tool . All are many years old and none have failed .
there are many sizes to choose from and they are cheap and fast to make . just tape your broken spring to it and cut out the shape . 10 min max .