Mine works great too. But it doesn't miss much...
My Win SX3 jams in cold - fixed
- Thread starter klask7
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Mine works great too. But it doesn't miss much...
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Yet another post clearly aimed at helping the OP and keeping this one on topic.
Like I said keep hating. I am laughing my ass off, and appreciate the entertainment.
Yet another post clearly aimed at helping the OP and keeping this one on topic.
Like I said keep hating. I am laughing my ass off, and appreciate the entertainment.
You got busted own up.
You have to realise that when you post and find out it was Dumb you can't go back and change it to make it right. Especially when it's already been quoted
3 or four times. Then you go and make another Post to try and cover your ass again. Priceless.
Then again you flame at "Easy" for telling it like it is. Again Priceless. I just wonder why your laughing your ass off. I guess if we can't laugh at ourselves who can we laugh at.
Temperature was -5 C. First jam happened after maybe 10 shots. After that we had more jams. Sometimes it would not extract shell and do 'smoking pipe' - when shell is stuck perpendicular to the barrel. Even with just one cartridge sometimes it would fail to extract it. Once I believe it extracted it but action did not stay opened like it's supposed to, but I maybe mistaken on this one. But I believe one most often type of jam was when used cartridge would be still in chamber, action is closed, or perhaps a little bit open and stuck. I did use drop of oil on each of the railings like instructed in manual. So yes - perhaps oiling is a problem.
Ammo used was Winchester Super Target 2-3/4, 1200 fps, 3 dram, 1-1/8 oz. I did not buy it in walmart - it was Lebaron. I thought winchester gun, winchester ammo should be good combination, no?
Gas ports are clean as everything else, including extractor. As I said I REALLY thorough in cleaning it.
So to those who is not using any oil in cold - what provides lubrication to moving pats then? Or are metals not subjected to friction in the cold? Am I missing something?
Also let me ask you this - how are other guns in this situation? I mentioned beretta. Would berretta autoloader work in any circumstances no matter what?
You mention you "did not buy it in walmart - it was Lebaron. I thought winchester gun, winchester ammo should be good combination, no?"
NO. Winchester ammo is not necessarily the best ammo for any particula gun. Even if it is a Winchester. Different ammunition will perform very differently from gun to gun, not only from the same manufacturer, but even a gun that came off the same line, the same day with a consecutive serial number.
"Vee don ave dat in stack" LieBaron is no better than WalMart. They both sell the same cheap crappy products.
You said "it jammed really bad" and "had real hard time to pull back action to extract used shell".
Sounds to me your shell is stuck in the chamber and nothing to do with oil.
Cold weather does not stop the action in its tracks because of thick oil in any gun. Cheap shells in rough chambers do. If the action cycles and a shell is stuck in the chamber, that tells a different story, but still not one of too much oil.
An example of the trouble not having anything to do with oil in cold weather is a warm gun. You did state that you fired 10 shells before the gun jammed. Pressure from exploding chambered ammunition isn't exactly compared to a souffle deflating in the oven.
Unless you're using olive oil in your gun, good gun oils have an operating range between -65 to 500 Degrees Fahrenheit. So -5 Degrees below zero means bupkis to an oiled gun, hot or cold.
Oil is used to keep metals lubricated and from galling during friction between different metals. Oils are designed to do so in cold or hot weather.
If no oil is applied to metal, the metal will heat up, expand, gall and cause more problems than a well oiled gun.
For those who profess to shoot guns dry for fear of malfunction in cold weather, I guess you also run your car engines without oil in the winter too.
So, Herr mlehtovaara, because a few others have the same mentality as you and your first post, while grandstanding that you're the one who actually pinpointed the OP's issues first does not mean you are correct. You didn't and you're not. ... Remove the arm rests off your chair and try again.
As far as what the real issue may be with the gun, it was pointed out that it cannot be determined with any accuracy without the gun being examined by someone competent to do so. That is the only factual post in this thread. Everything else is a guessing game no matter how specifically the issue is described by the owner.
If one doesn't understand what the problem is, he is unlikely to clearly explain exactly what is happening to the gun for anyone to assess the situation through a computer. Least of all by someone with a vivid imagination and plenty of speculative theory. Gunsmiths behind brick and mortar would be in ruins under all the armchairs behind computers.
... sheesh.Yet another post clearly aimed at helping the OP and keeping this one on topic.
Like I said keep hating. I am laughing my ass off, and appreciate the entertainment.
BTW, mlehtovaara, I'm starting to resent this hatred implication of yours every time I call you on your bear bagels. You've referenced this hatred several times now. This doesn't bother me, but it does accentuate your poor judgment. For a Psych student you should know better.
Disagreeing with your points of view does not translate into hatred in my book.
Let me be clear ... I hate no one, love everyone and do no harm to anyone. If you feel hurt, it's something you need to work on. Suck it up and start over.
... if that makes you laugh, the joke's on you.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
You got busted own up.
You have to realise that when you post and find out it was Dumb you can't go back and change it to make it right. Especially when it's already been quoted
3 or four times. Then you go and make another Post to try and cover your ass again. Priceless.
Then again you flame at "Easy" for telling it like it is. Again Priceless. I just wonder why your laughing your ass off. I guess if we can't laugh at ourselves who can we laugh at.
What are you talking about! How did I get busted. You are seriously getting on my nerves now!
My Mossberg 930 thread, so you understand because clearly I need to go above ad beyond to explain to you that I am comparing his Win SX3(which I think is an awesome gun by the way) and my Mossberg 930.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=582326
The second post that referenced the pump was simply to illustrate the problem with guns jamming in the cold.
They were 2 separate posts about 2 separate guns! How do you not understand that. If I was referring to the same gun I would have just made 1 post and would never have made a specific reference to the "PUMP" aspect of the gun.
I edited them so that it was a little more clear, as I understood the mistake that could have been made. You going off on such a tangent and raving all this lunacy is beyond ignorant.
Nope. You said "Guns worth 1000 bucks and they won't cycle this cheap target stuff" implying an expensive gun such as semi-auto's which cost more than the manual shotguns as you referred to the Mossberg 500 stating "yet my 500 Mossberg runs em all day?"
Why would you reference a pump shotgun jamming in the cold because of oil? How would that be relevant to this thread and have anything to do with jamming.
A 500 is a manual shotgun. The 930 is a semi.
Later you added the "930" in front of 500 Mossberg to cover your asininity. Now you're pissing on Win/64's leg saying it's raining.
What IS a 500 Mossberg 930 anyway? Is that another way of saying "I'm confused"?
Fess up to your mistakes and be done with it.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
This makes absolutely no sense. I have a Mossberg 930. I don't even own a mossberg pump. The only reference to a pump was just that "my pump". The 500 in the first post refers to the price of the gun! Which is also part of the thread I linked to.
I already admitted that I could understand the confusion. But it is just that confusion.
The two of you have now totally ruined this thread with your constant accusations of my bulls**tting, which if you look at the thread I linked to clearly shows you exactly what the fcuk I am talking about!
I clearly own a Mossberg 930, and this was the gun I was referring to!
You continue even now to debate this?
Nobody argued that you didn't have a 930. Your mistake was comparing the 930 to the 500 cycling ammunition and gloating you solved the problem blaming oil for the OPs malfunctions being wrong on both occasions.
Get over it. This thread is not about you anyway.
Get over it. This thread is not about you anyway.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
You and Win/64 have made it about me!
I don't take kindly to people calling me out as either a liar, or BSer, which is what you guys have been doing.
I screwed up the post, I will, and already have admitted that, and I tried to clear it up. The 2 of you however continue attacking me, and I am not just gonna go away.
You wanna start #### on an internet forum, then just expect it to go away, yet you continue to keep trying to get the last word like a child, in some playground fight.
What would you do without the internet? Gotta love it.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
And the attacks continue.
Once again you guys are making this about me.
I would never have even gotten into this if you hadn't continued attacking me.
How did the 930 come into this equation? The OP is talking about an SX3. Nobody mentioned a 500, or a 930 but you, now saying you're talking about a $500. gun comparing it to one worth $1100. in your #27.
Thank God for dollar signs, or it may be confused with a Remington.
Talking about Remington and to stay on topic, klask7, buy some Remington ammo for that SX3.
