Mystery 95 mauser
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Got any pictures?
.275 is British nomenclature for the 7mm Mauser.(7×57). Possibly a British made rifle, using a Mauser supplied M95 action. The crow n marking may be a British proofmark.
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Impossible to determine without photos.
A crown over U, E, G, N, R, B, S, V, or W are German proof-marks [for different types], a Crown over R or PV denotes Belgian proof, while, as jethunter pointed out, a Crown over BP [or BNP or BV or BP] denotes Birmingham proof, a Crown over V or intertwined CP denotes London proof. Because all Rigbys were actually completely made by Mauser, they carry both German & British proof marks. A Crown over EL, F, S, PJ, P, R, P, PM, PS denote French proof, a Crown over FE denotes Spanish proof.
I could go on & on & on.
Plus, do not forget that early M98 Mauser actions were small ring actions like the pre-98 M95 / M96 versions.
A crown over U, E, G, N, R, B, S, V, or W are German proof-marks [for different types], a Crown over R or PV denotes Belgian proof, while, as jethunter pointed out, a Crown over BP [or BNP or BV or BP] denotes Birmingham proof, a Crown over V or intertwined CP denotes London proof. Because all Rigbys were actually completely made by Mauser, they carry both German & British proof marks. A Crown over EL, F, S, PJ, P, R, P, PM, PS denote French proof, a Crown over FE denotes Spanish proof.
I could go on & on & on.
Plus, do not forget that early M98 Mauser actions were small ring actions like the pre-98 M95 / M96 versions.
Ok I will discibe it top line large crown with tapered sides 275 c G.B.P.
Directly below crown slightly tapered sides N St. m. G. there is a mark above the St
It is definitely not a 98 action
Tapered Crown over N denotes post 1912, pre-1939 German proof mark for rifled barrels.
275 c G.B.P. St, m.G. is actually 2,75 g GBP [Europeans use a comma instead of a decimal point to denote a number less than 1] [the g is the abbreviation for grams] grams of Gewehr Blättchen Pulver (rifle flake powder); St, m.G denotes Stahl-mantel Geschoss (steel jacketed bullet). This marking was in use from 1891 to 1911.
Given that both the crown over N and the 2,75 g G.B.P. St, m.G. markings are there, it appears the rifle was re-proofed between 1912 & 1939.
275 c G.B.P. St, m.G. is actually 2,75 g GBP [Europeans use a comma instead of a decimal point to denote a number less than 1] [the g is the abbreviation for grams] grams of Gewehr Blättchen Pulver (rifle flake powder); St, m.G denotes Stahl-mantel Geschoss (steel jacketed bullet). This marking was in use from 1891 to 1911.
Given that both the crown over N and the 2,75 g G.B.P. St, m.G. markings are there, it appears the rifle was re-proofed between 1912 & 1939.
Very interesting, curious that being european it doesn't have 7 x 57 on it
I thought the 275 with what looks like a c behind it was for calibre but the comma 2,75 now makes sense
I read somewhere that rifles of this discription were sent to the Beors or as a gift to potential buyers of the model 95 Argentine mauser.
Do either of those ideas make sense to you?
I thought the 275 with what looks like a c behind it was for calibre but the comma 2,75 now makes sense
I read somewhere that rifles of this discription were sent to the Beors or as a gift to potential buyers of the model 95 Argentine mauser.
Do either of those ideas make sense to you?
Only British rifles have a .275 cartridge marking on it. [for .275 Rigby, .275 Bland, .275 Rimless N.E., &c.] Remember that .275 is a bore [land] measurement, NOT the groove diameter.
Military rifles are NEVER marked with the chambering for OPSEC!!!!
I have never heard of the gifting idea, but that does not mean anything.
Military rifles are NEVER marked with the chambering for OPSEC!!!!
I have never heard of the gifting idea, but that does not mean anything.
Forgot to add that if your bolt face has a round bottom, it is based on a Model 1895, not a Model 1893, which has a flat bottom bolt face.
It is a commercial rifle, based on the Model 1895 action.
What is the screw / plate on the top?
What is the screw / plate on the top?
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On first sniff my spidey sense this was a commercial mauser ordered from a Birmingham gunmaker.
But that's just me...........
Lol
Edit: I have a blackpowder drilling built by Sauer & Son of Suhl about 1890ish. It's 45-70 barrel has Alexander Henry 7 groove rifling. I suspect that fine Prussian gunmaker, actually sourced-ordered this rifle barrel blank from a British source.
But that's just me...........
Lol
Edit: I have a blackpowder drilling built by Sauer & Son of Suhl about 1890ish. It's 45-70 barrel has Alexander Henry 7 groove rifling. I suspect that fine Prussian gunmaker, actually sourced-ordered this rifle barrel blank from a British source.
Sorry, but I do not see any Birmingham or London Proof House marks at all.
Lift your bolt handle & move the bolt to the rear.
Looking on the inside of the left-hand bolt raceway, is there a metal "strip" running horizontally from front to back halfway down the inside of the bolt raceway?
If so, it is based on the so-called "Chilean" 1895 model.
If, however, it does not & the bolt number matches the receiver, then it is based on the Model 1897, the very last iteration of pre-1898 actions.
Looking on the inside of the left-hand bolt raceway, is there a metal "strip" running horizontally from front to back halfway down the inside of the bolt raceway?
If so, it is based on the so-called "Chilean" 1895 model.
If, however, it does not & the bolt number matches the receiver, then it is based on the Model 1897, the very last iteration of pre-1898 actions.
I think it has significant historical value, but there will be only a small-ish group of interested collectors. I don't have a good idea about value, but it's worth several times more more than the average converted milsurp M95. I am interested if you put it up for sale, but again I don't have a good idea what it's worth.
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