Picked up this little jewel this morning. 1940 Izzy. Anybody have an idea how common the navy stock is? It has the dual safety cutouts and thicker body of an AVT stock, but no arsenal stamp or "A" like my other regular AVT stock.
Naval stock SVT 40
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Bittermansbro
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I always thought the SVT's looked like someone let a bunch of kids loose in the factory with metal stamps and said 'have at 'er!'
To me, SVT40's look at me and say "I am badass, and I am going to kill you".
For Russian hardware that looks like little kids designed, have a look at a KV2 tank. I used to draw those things all the time without knowing it when I was little, simply because I SUCK AT DRAWING! Still, my favorite tank of all time though. They say to me "I am badass and I am going to kill you".
Wait, maybe there's a pattern here...
For Russian hardware that looks like little kids designed, have a look at a KV2 tank. I used to draw those things all the time without knowing it when I was little, simply because I SUCK AT DRAWING! Still, my favorite tank of all time though. They say to me "I am badass and I am going to kill you".
Wait, maybe there's a pattern here...
By the sling slot on the stock.
from mosinnagant.net:
These unusual stocks appear in mid to late 1942 on the SVT 40 rifle. Some but not all are in an AVT configuration. For the sake of this article and from evidence of Soviet photographs I refer to this stock configuration of a front swivel on the band and a rear slot in the stock like Mosin Nagant as a Naval Infantry stock. Various pictures of Soviet Marines disembarking craft or used in a land based role show them with this type of stock in use. The sling is a modified SVT sling that utilizes a rear sling loop while the front retains the normal strap. The use of this style stock appears to have been from 1942 to 1945 from observed examples dated and marked as such.
A full side shot of the type of sling used for this configuration stock-the Naval Infantry version. Note the strap in the front as found on the typical SVT sling and the lack of one on the rear, instead a sling keeper is used and a sling loop to utilize the slot in the rear of the stock. There are two versions of this sling. Type 1 as shown on this gun and another -type 2- that has a sling loop with a buckle type attachment that projects of the side at a 90 degree angle and fastens through he slot preventing it from pulling through. It closely resembles a K98 type buckle. This sling, the type 2, is very rare and I have only encountered two in my time collecting. The addition of the 90 degree strap on the rear sling loop prevents the sling from twisting when the rifle was slung.
These unusual stocks appear in mid to late 1942 on the SVT 40 rifle. Some but not all are in an AVT configuration. For the sake of this article and from evidence of Soviet photographs I refer to this stock configuration of a front swivel on the band and a rear slot in the stock like Mosin Nagant as a Naval Infantry stock. Various pictures of Soviet Marines disembarking craft or used in a land based role show them with this type of stock in use. The sling is a modified SVT sling that utilizes a rear sling loop while the front retains the normal strap. The use of this style stock appears to have been from 1942 to 1945 from observed examples dated and marked as such.
A full side shot of the type of sling used for this configuration stock-the Naval Infantry version. Note the strap in the front as found on the typical SVT sling and the lack of one on the rear, instead a sling keeper is used and a sling loop to utilize the slot in the rear of the stock. There are two versions of this sling. Type 1 as shown on this gun and another -type 2- that has a sling loop with a buckle type attachment that projects of the side at a 90 degree angle and fastens through he slot preventing it from pulling through. It closely resembles a K98 type buckle. This sling, the type 2, is very rare and I have only encountered two in my time collecting. The addition of the 90 degree strap on the rear sling loop prevents the sling from twisting when the rifle was slung.
M1Garandfather
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Thats a beautiful SVT , great catch!... I see it has the two baffle muzzle brake as well , I thought those were only installed on later mfg'd rifles , but with the Rooskies refurbing them , I guess anything's possible as far as hardware goes...
Was this a private purchase you made , or from a dealer?.. I'd like a Navel stocked one as well.
Thats a beautiful SVT , great catch!... I see it has the two baffle muzzle brake as well , I thought those were only installed on later mfg'd rifles , but with the Rooskies refurbing them , I guess anything's possible as far as hardware goes...
Was this a private purchase you made , or from a dealer?.. I'd like a Navel stocked one as well.
I bought it at a dealer, it was the only one like it in the crate. I was there the day the crate came in, looked at them all, and picked the best one I could find (almost took this one, it was a very close second but I really wanted one with a 6 hole brake that day). I went in to look at SKSs a few weeks later and it was still there, couldn't believe it. So home it came. They still have about 8, but I think I got the best 2 out of the crate, for sure!
M1Garandfather
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Glad it was still there and you got it... I've tried to research the different brakes on these rifles , some say the two baffle one was a wartime expedient measure , some say it was more effective than the six baffle one , so it's a toss-up I suppose between the two.
I picked one up at my local dealer recently, a 1943 Tula...It has the six baffle brake with a darker coloured bolt , and is sitting in an AVT stock (very common I've read as they must have had a surplus of them around as the AVT was not a good conversion apparently).... My stock has a large letter A stamped on the right side as well as the right side safety cutout...
These are interesting rifles for sure with a history...They were prized by the Germans (and Finns) if captured , the Germans captured so many they even issued an instruction book on them for the troops...
I'd like to find an original type sling rather than the Mosin-Nagant ones that came with them in the case , but thats half the fun , looking for accessories and maybe even a variant!...Too bad the bayonets for them are sooo pricey too.
All the best
Bob
I picked one up at my local dealer recently, a 1943 Tula...It has the six baffle brake with a darker coloured bolt , and is sitting in an AVT stock (very common I've read as they must have had a surplus of them around as the AVT was not a good conversion apparently).... My stock has a large letter A stamped on the right side as well as the right side safety cutout...
These are interesting rifles for sure with a history...They were prized by the Germans (and Finns) if captured , the Germans captured so many they even issued an instruction book on them for the troops...
I'd like to find an original type sling rather than the Mosin-Nagant ones that came with them in the case , but thats half the fun , looking for accessories and maybe even a variant!...Too bad the bayonets for them are sooo pricey too.
All the best
Bob
My first SVT, a '41 Tula, has an AVT stock with the big "A" stamped on it. The second, a '40 Izzy, has a regular SVT stock, but its a Tula stock (year can't be seen). Then the Navy one, with an aVT configured stock without the "A".
I sure wish there was more info on these rifles, what the markings all mean, etc. I've gotten to know SKSs pretty well, would like to learn a lot more about SVT's but the info is either hard to find or non existant! At least we get to own them.
I sure wish there was more info on these rifles, what the markings all mean, etc. I've gotten to know SKSs pretty well, would like to learn a lot more about SVT's but the info is either hard to find or non existant! At least we get to own them.
