The 300 Win Mag is a lousy cartidge that will never work because the neck is too short.
Naysayers defeated. .375 Ruger legitimized
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The 300 Win Mag is a lousy cartidge that will never work because the neck is too short.
mike shickele
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I agree 100%. I had one on a Mauser action, and as soon as I started reloading for it, I wanted to get rid of it. The 300 Win Mag is about the worst designed cartridge I've ever seen, and I suspect that it was designed that way only because Norma beat them to the dimensions that they really should have used.
Mike
HAHAHHAHAHAAH...Perfect response...
I also recall a Boddington article where he informed the readers that the belt on magnum cartridges was to reinforce the case to thwart case seperation.
mike shickele
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HAHAHHAHAHAAH...Perfect response...
I also recall a Boddington article where he informed the readers that the belt on magnum cartridges was to reinforce the case to thwart case seperation.
Nobody said that he was the brightest, but for him to mention the jamming in print should cause one to sit back and think about it for a second. I've always thought that it would be nice if the cartridge designers moved away from the belt, but if they're moving towards another negative thing, the move is not forward, is it. I feel that it would have been wise to make the body taper about 1 degree more then they did on the 375 Ruger. That would have only decreased the internal volume by about 1-2 grains, and then there would have been no question as to the feeding. You don't need much body taper for things to work as they should, but you do need some. I suspect that when they designed the case, the only things that where on there mind where internal capacity, velocity in comparison to the 375H&H, and sales appeal.
Mike
The only people who question the Ruger feeding are people that don't own one.
If we want to play "The gunwriter said this so it must be important", let's consult what Phil Shoemaker has to say about the 375 Ruger
mike shickele
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I was quite interested in Phils' article, and it does lean positively towards the 375 ruger. You seem to want to lap up all the positive that you can about the cartridge, and dismiss any negative that you hear. I would suspect that you can no longer be objective about the cartridge. I can name negatives about all of the guns that I own; that doesn't mean that they are bad guns, but there has never been the perfectly designed gun or cartridge. If there was, we would all own it.
Mike
Mike
Not at all...It's just a cartridge, It's the New King, but just a cartridge
The problem is most of the people that are saying things like "It won't feed have never even shot one!
Tell us exactly what Boddington had to say about the 375 Ruger, please. Here it is:
"The .375 Ruger is not the .375 H&H, but it measures up well, and in all ways. In fact, as much as it truly galls me to say this, the .375 Ruger is probably a better cartridge"
"Feeding is superb, not only in the left-hand rifle but in all the right-hand rifles I have seen. As most of you know by now, obtaining smooth feeding can be problematic with our new short, fat magnums, but this does not seem to be a problem with this cartridge, at least not in the Ruger M77 with .30-06-length action"
http://www.rifleshootermag.com/ammunition/375ruger_061207/#cont
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mike shickele
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You introduce a source (Boddington) and add his comments into your comments about feeding issues. Now I show you that your source disagrees with you.
Nothing is perfect, of course, but I'd like to hear all about your experiences with the 375 Ruger cartridge and please list it's negative points?
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Boddington is a twit,the only thing I ever watched him shoot was trees.
I emailed him and asked him what bark tasted like....no response.
Boddington is a typical gunwhore,he will say anything that the gunmakers tell him to.
The only thing good about him is that he managed to knock up some woman that brought Brittany Boddington into the world.
I emailed him and asked him what bark tasted like....no response.
Boddington is a typical gunwhore,he will say anything that the gunmakers tell him to.
The only thing good about him is that he managed to knock up some woman that brought Brittany Boddington into the world.
.375 Ruger legitimized? Seems to suggest that before now it was illegitimate or a bastard? Although CZ makes a fine rifle, an endorsement from the Czech Republic is hardly a coronation. Besides every gun nut should know that the .375 Ruger is the King because the King said so.
.375 Ruger legitimized? Seems to suggest that before now it was illegitimate or a bastard? Although CZ makes a fine rifle, an endorsement from the Czech Republic is hardly a coronation. Besides every gun nut should know that the .375 Ruger is the King because the King said so.[/QUOTE]
Kind of like that guy in the margarine commercial?
"You'll never know it's not an H&H!" ta DAAAAAA!!!
You understand I was being sarcastic, the 300 win mag is one of my alltime favourite cartridges. The BS about the neck being too short is the same sort of stuff as other cartridges not feeding etc.
mike shickele
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I've never been a big fan of Boddingtons writing style, but he has lived the hunters dream, hunting more than most men, x10...
That was the original idea- Tapered for easy feeding and extracting. But how many cartridges still look like the .375 H&H or .300 H&H?
Your right not many there are to many people that recognize that a little more case capacity = velocity = a good thing.
What I'm missing is what is with this need for a shorter cartridge/bolt/action am I one of the few here that doesn't have an issue with bolt length or the need for a slightly lighter rifle if you can't handle an extra 8 oz in action weight exercise a bit more you probably need it.
Short actions are just more marketing hype that many are falling for...
NOW AVAILABLE....HOWA 1500 .375 RUGER !!!!!
Camp has some good points.
Marketing is great if people agree with you. Not everyone will buy a Shamwow, no matter how amazing it appears to be.
I think a good point of the .375 Ruger fitting into STANDARD length actions is that more manufacturers without capabilities to make a magnum length actions, can chamber this class of cartridge. More selection of rifles is good in my mind. Cost of manufacturing should be lower as well.
Now you can have .375 H&H performance in a compact package, yes maybe a little light in weight for some who like the rifle to soak up a little more energy, but if YOU choose, you can have this new product for around a grand.
Here is the field reports of it killing big animals successfully, here are the ballistic information, here are the reloading components and equipment, here is some safe loading information.
Buy an H&H if you wish, or a RUM or a WBY, there will always be a bigger or a faster or a whatever.
What is good is that we have a new product that works and some of us think its great. Are we not all here to talk about guns anyhow?
Some like to joke around and stir up the pot a bit, which was my original point of this thread, some take themselves far too seriously. Not to genuinely pi$$ anyone off, but to have a little fun. Some have less of a sense of internet humour, and take PERSONAL offence to peoples own different opinion. It sure would be boring if all of you were just like me, or just like anyone else. Agree?
Camp has some good points.
Marketing is great if people agree with you. Not everyone will buy a Shamwow, no matter how amazing it appears to be.
I think a good point of the .375 Ruger fitting into STANDARD length actions is that more manufacturers without capabilities to make a magnum length actions, can chamber this class of cartridge. More selection of rifles is good in my mind. Cost of manufacturing should be lower as well.
Now you can have .375 H&H performance in a compact package, yes maybe a little light in weight for some who like the rifle to soak up a little more energy, but if YOU choose, you can have this new product for around a grand.
Here is the field reports of it killing big animals successfully, here are the ballistic information, here are the reloading components and equipment, here is some safe loading information.
Buy an H&H if you wish, or a RUM or a WBY, there will always be a bigger or a faster or a whatever.
What is good is that we have a new product that works and some of us think its great. Are we not all here to talk about guns anyhow?
Some like to joke around and stir up the pot a bit, which was my original point of this thread, some take themselves far too seriously. Not to genuinely pi$$ anyone off, but to have a little fun. Some have less of a sense of internet humour, and take PERSONAL offence to peoples own different opinion. It sure would be boring if all of you were just like me, or just like anyone else. Agree?
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