NcStar scope good or bad??

Ok you guys have me convinced to go with the redfield or the Bushnell. But curious to know what your thoughts are on a Simmons? Any one have experience with these?? Good or bad?? Preadator quest is always advertising them was wondering how they handel??
 
They are better than NC star, but I still wouldn't buy one.

For optics purchases I'd rate scopes $550 and under:

1. Leupold and Ziess
2.Bushnell Elite 4200, Burris FF-2,
3.Redfield revolution and bushnell 3200,


................Wouldn't buy line.................................................

4. Simmons (have one on a .22 works but wouldn't use on a .308)
5.Tasco
6. Lower end Bushnell
7. NC star
8. all other similiar quality scopes

All based that your going to put it on a .308 rifle
 
What scope would you guys suggest with target turrets for a reasonable price I bought a NC star MKIII 4-16 with target turrets to put on my 223 and its performed very well for the last 3 years . I also have a 6500 but just can't afford another 6500 tactical are there any other options under $800.00 sorry not trying to hijack the thread.
 
No worries man hijack away where all here to learn more to feed our obsessions. I have a. Bushnell 4200 tactical on my 243 & 204 love em. $600 on sale at wholesale sports
 
Hate to admit it but I have this nasty habit of drinking Magpul's kool-aid. Recently got a chance to watch their latest dvd (precision rifle) and the fellow that stretch and beardsly were taking instruction from suggested buying just one really good scope with a really good quick detach system so that you can transfer it to whichever rifle you need it on at that moment.
Interesting thought. Doesn't apply to the OP, but DEZ might consider it.
 
crayton said:
Hate to admit it but I have this nasty habit of drinking Magpul's kool-aid. Recently got a chance to watch their latest dvd (precision rifle) and the fellow that stretch and beardsly were taking instruction from suggested buying just one really good scope with a really good quick detach system so that you can transfer it to whichever rifle you need it on at that moment.
Interesting thought. Doesn't apply to the OP, but DEZ might consider it.
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Interesting idea, but for those of us that cannot rezero our rifles without a trip to the rifle range, it doesn't work all that well.

Also means all existing rifles, if not a flat top AR, would have to have standard/consistent mounts with each other.

Let's say that costs $170 per rifle for a decent rail system.
quality quick detach rings @ $100 a pop

Now an average of say 6 rifles.

@ $150 a rail system, it's going to cost me $1020 plus tax and shipping to standardize my rifles. Plus 100 for the QD system. Plus $1000 (give or take) for the "quality" optic that magpul is trying to encourage lots of people to buy (something with the horus reticle IIRC)

Total comes to $2120

Not to mention gas tot the range anytime you change optics, and ammo to re-zero. Let's not forget how much YOUR time actually costs you.

Sometimes I switch rifles through out the day depending on what the dogs are doing or how busy the range is.

Instead, I can take $353 ($2120/6) per rifle for scope, rings and bases, and have a fully stocked, ready to go at anytime, array of rifles.
After rings and bases, you have about $300 for a scope.

Now on these hunting rifles (NOT precision rigs), a 3-9x40 redfield for $230 works fine.
if I need something stronger, a Bushnell fixed 10x. - $230

I'm not advocating cheaping out, but if thats all your budget can do, there are options.
 
Budget is a term referring to a specific amount of money over a period of time. Wait a bit and run quality glass. Most optics under $500 are crap. Running one or two decent pieces of glass on several rifles is plain logical. You become very familiar with your optic/reticle, there's no doubt the glass will work, and in the end its cheaper. Running $250 optics on six rifles is stupid. There's always the concern with the optics holding up, and six rifles is pointless. Run one or two, get good with it and be done. You can only use one at a time anyway so why would you need more than one or two?

Run one rifle for varmint/volume shooting, something in .223, .243, or similar. Run another rifle for hunting/precision, something in .308, .300, or .338 LM. You could just run one gun for all tasks but, .338LM is a little excessive and expensive for coyotes and gophers.

TDC

ETA: Na1lb0hm, I know you have quality glass. ;)
 
TDC said:
Budget is a term referring to a specific amount of money over a period of time. Wait a bit and run quality glass. Most optics under $500 are crap. Running one or two decent pieces of glass on several rifles is plain logical. You become very familiar with your optic/reticle, there's no doubt the glass will work, and in the end its cheaper. Running $250 optics on six rifles is stupid. There's always the concern with the optics holding up, and six rifles is pointless. Run one or two, get good with it and be done. You can only use one at a time anyway so why would you need more than one or two?

Run one rifle for varmint/volume shooting, something in .223, .243, or similar. Run another rifle for hunting/precision, something in .308, .300, or .338 LM. You could just run one gun for all tasks but, .338LM is a little excessive and expensive for coyotes and gophers.

TDC

ETA: Na1lb0hm, I know you have quality glass. ;)
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Yeah, it's pretty good. Still having issues with consistently finding my hold overs with the G**D**** post. haha.

True that you can only use one at a time, but I hate swapping scopes around between rifles. So I'd rather have one or two good pieces of glass and slowly upgrade each one individually.
 
Grizzlypeg said:
I wouldn't rely on one for any serious hunting. Imagine sitting out there in the cold, calling and finally getting a chance at a good shot,and the scope causes you to miss. At a minimum, get something from Bushnell. Or for $200 you can get a Leupold VXI or $229 VXI with long range reticle, and have something you can rely upon and will last a lifetime.
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I have several NCStar's, mounted on .22's, a 308 and a 300 WM. Hundreds of rounds down the centerfires, thousands in the 22's, not a problem with any of them. I do agree that I would not use one on a hunting rifle if it's an important hunt. The odds are that at some point, a cheap scope will give up the ghost. If you're at the range, unscrew the mounts, toss in the garbage can and get another one. If you're shooting at the buck of a lifetime and it craps out, even if you replace the scope, you'll have a hard time unwrapping the rifle from around the tree.
 
adrigauthier said:
Im Converting my brother in laws .308 in to a coyote gun with some 100gr hand loads. Unfortunatly he's on a budget and needs a New scope. I found the 6-24x50 NcStar for a fantastic price. Are these a decent scope and will they with hold the recoil of a .308??
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Unless it's $20 and you wouldn't have more fun lighting the money on fire, it's not a good deal.
 
At the range i was in the process of zeroing a customer rifle, he had a Ncstar scope over a 270, at the third round i shoot, the rear lens just fell on the ground, it was hard not to laugh... JP.
 
Papaclaude said:
I have several NCStar's, mounted on .22's, a 308 and a 300 WM. Hundreds of rounds down the centerfires, thousands in the 22's, not a problem with any of them. I do agree that I would not use one on a hunting rifle if it's an important hunt. The odds are that at some point, a cheap scope will give up the ghost. If you're at the range, unscrew the mounts, toss in the garbage can and get another one. If you're shooting at the buck of a lifetime and it craps out, even if you replace the scope, you'll have a hard time unwrapping the rifle from around the tree.
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Tell you what, crank your windage and elevation 10 clicks past your zero in both directions then back to zero. Reshoot and tell me if it holds zero, I strongly doubt it will. Next, lean your rifle against the wall and knock it over, check your zero. Last, submerge your optic in the bathtub or sink for 30 minutes, check for water inside. Toss your optic in the freezer for an hour then check if turrets move. If your glass can't handle these simple tests, its crap..

TDC
 
TDC said:
Tell you what, crank your windage and elevation 10 clicks past your zero in both directions then back to zero. Reshoot and tell me if it holds zero, I strongly doubt it will. Next, lean your rifle against the wall and knock it over, check your zero. Last, submerge your optic in the bathtub or sink for 30 minutes, check for water inside. Toss your optic in the freezer for an hour then check if turrets move. If your glass can't handle these simple tests, its crap..

TDC
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Says you...

If you're only shooting under controlled condtions at the range, then who cares?

I agree that NCstar is crap based on my personal experience, but others seem to have had some success with them. I'd never reccommend one to anyone, but there is no use in calling everyone's gear crap, just because it didn't cost an arm and a leg.
 
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