NEA-15 CQB review

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I noticed that a lot of people have been curious about this "new" Canadian AR platform. So I cooked up a review for the members of CGN to enjoy.

Let us begin.:stirthepot2:

On January 20th 2012 (My Birthday:onCrack:) I decided to pre-order an NEA-15 CQB with a vortex strikefire from SFRC. At the time Ryan and his staff was expecting to receive the rifles at the end of January...after 3 months of waiting...I received my rifle on April 27th.

At first I was kind of nervous over all of the bad comment about the rifles (bad staking, heavy trigger pull, bla bla bla) I was still very happy to see the mailman pull in the yard.

THE UNBOXING

The rifle came in a very plain box. Regular brown cardboard, no markings. Nothing special about it, the first thing I noticed is how light the package was. I even thought that it was something else at first. :p
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When I opened the box it was packaged very simply, no packing peanuts, no styrofoam, just a few pieces of foam but it held the rifle very well in place.
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I have to admit I was a bit disappointed that there was no manual or warranty card (and no poker chip?:p) in the box. But all of those can be found a NEA's website.
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THE EXTERNALS

Okay I got to admit it...when I picked up my new acquisition...I JIZZED MY PANTS!!!:D The external quality of the NEA-15 CQB far exceeded my expectations not to mention that the darn thing is really light. (about 4 to 5 lbs.) The gun looked black but not quite...its a bizarre flat finish that seems to shift from grey to black in different lighting conditions. But it looked nice I had no complain.
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The free float hand-guard was a bit loose at first, but to fix this issue all I had to do is tighten the 4 Allan screws that holds the hand-guard to the barrel nut. Also there is a hole on each side of the rails for a QD swivel attachment.
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The receiver is very well made, no shavings, no pointy edges. The front of the mag-well is flared, trigger guard is large enough to use with gloves. The only downside is that the trigger guard is one piece with the receiver and can't be changed to something else. The etching of the gryphon is really nice and deep, same with the lettering on the other side. The dust cover won't keep closed though...maybe its just mine.:(
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The grip and butt-stock of the rifle is pretty standard. There is no wiggle and they line up perfectly. No complain there since the kool-aid furniture will replace it soon.:D
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The top rail of the rifle is marked with numbers to make it easier to find the last spot your scope was installed!:p But the rail under and the two on the sides are blank. Also the bull barrel is pretty thick yet it does not seem to add too much weight to it. Nothing special about the flash hider, just a generic A2 style.
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This pretty much covers the first part of my review. Tomorrow I will add an internal parts review and a range report. But for now...I'm off to bed.

Enjoy!:cool:

PART 2

THE BCG

The infamous and mysterious NEA BCG! Well its a bolt group. Its quality isn't bad considering the price of the rifle. On mine the chisel staking technique was used for staking the gas key. To me its seems fine but to some people it might not. (seems to be a matter of opinion more than anything else)
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I don't have much else to add to the internals. Only time can tell of its quality. I'll just skip to the range report!;) And then skip back to the internals after.

THE RANGE REPORT

Cold day at the range today. North western winds of 15 km/h and +4. I set up my Birchwood Casey's Shoot N C targets. And the range's trusty little red wooden rest!
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I was using MFS 62GR soft points (crappy ammo) and of course the Vortex Strikefire that came with the gun. I set up my Shoot N C target at 100 meters. And zeroed in the red dot.

After zeroing in this is what it gave me for a 5 rounds grouping. (note that the dot in vortex strike fire is like 5MOA at 100yards:eek:)
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I tried again with a new sheet but came with the same result.
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Next time I hit the range I'll try with a 3-9 power scope just to see if it helps the grouping. And I'll grab a box of Federal Gold Match 69gr BTHP.
I'll post the results later.

I went to the range a second time and tried some 55Gr. American Eagle tactical at 50 meters and got pretty decent groupings out of 10.5" barrel.
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Now the questions everybody has. Jams? FTE? and other malfunctions?

I shot about 120 rounds...I had about 2 FTE. No jams, and I had 2 double taps. Now the reason this happened is that the pin holding the trigger group started to slide out of the receiver (That’s no good!!!:() Eventually it reached the point where it was only holding on one side.
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I pushed the pin back in and it fixed the problem. But every 30 rounds or so I had to push it back in. That’s a problem that will need solving.

The shell deflector is now all scratched up so I guess its doing its job.:eek:
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And for some reason my dust cover can now be closed. I guess it fixed itself?:confused:

The trigger pull is fine on mine. Its about 6lbs give or take which is reasonable for a semi automatic firearm.

OH LOOK!!!The screws didn't even move after a day at the range!!!:p
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Bolt head doesn't show any unusual signs of wear either.
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Their is a lot of friction between the hammer and the bolt though. I wonder if it will cause premature wear?
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THE CONCLUSION

The NEA-15 rifles are very nice on the outside and are visually appealing. But in term of reliability, I would have to say that I wouldn't trust my life to that rifle. In the same price range there is far better performing AR's out of the box period. Although I didn't get the worst of the bunch, its seems that most NEA rifles has bugs that made it past the quality control process. I do not regret buying one, but if I would have to buy another AR I'd go for a CORE15.

I'm sure that I'll eventually work out the bugs to make a solid performer out of my AR. But a "work in progress" is what you get when you buy one at the moment. I urge the Canadian population to keep supporting NEA for the sheer fact that one day they will take their places among the top AR manufacturers.

I see a bright future ahead for NEA, but unless they learn to navigate through this "storm" they're facing. I doubt that the Canadian shooters will embrace their product as I did.

The NEA gets a mark of 7/10.

Hope you enjoyed my review.
:ar15::ar15::ar15:

UPDATE

This is the final product. I dressed her up with FAB Defense furniture.
Enjoy the gun ####.

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Looks great. I am strongly considering buying an NEA lower with a RRA parts kit to mate with one of my uppers. Probably have to dura/armacoat it so they match (yeah, I am picky like that).

Seriously though, those are the best pics of the NEA I have seen yet.
 
On January 20th 2012 (My Birthday:onCrack:) I decided to pre-order an NEA-15 CQB with a vortex strikefire from SFRC. At the time Ryan and his staff was expecting to receive the rifles at the end of January...after 3 months of waiting...I received my rifle on April 27th.

So, you were told January but didn't get it until late April? Wow, I think I would have found another company to buy it from before waiting that long for something you were expecting to own in short order. You're got patience, to be sure.

Okay I got to admit it...when I picked up my new acquisition...I JIZZED MY PANTS!!!:D

TMI dude!

The external quality of the NEA-15 CQB far exceeded my expectations not to mention that the darn thing is really light. (about 4 to 5 lbs.)

Are you sure the bolt carrier assembly was there? Just sayin'.

The free float hand-guard was a bit loose at first and it also made the barrel wiggle in the action, but to fix this issue all I had to do is tighten the 4 Allan screws that holds the hand-guard to the barrel nut.

No surprise here.

The dust cover won't keep closed though...maybe its just mine.:(

Or there.

If I were you, I think I would have someone familiar with AR's examine the rifle first before firing it. I wouldn't feel comfortable pulling the trigger on any firearm that doesn't have simple things like bolts fastend correctly or parts that don't appear to function as intended. I say this not to be inflamatory towards NEA but as a legitimate concern for any person new to a particular firearm. If you were reporting the same issues about a LMT AR, I would say the same thing.



looks good man, what camera are you using, those are awesome picks!

Hmm...opinions vary I guess. At least there's a pleasing background for the carbine. And most importantly, no toes or dirty socks. I would guess he's using something other than a typical cell phone. That's ground breaking for here. lol
 
Rifle looks good, nice pics. Looks like a nice tight fit between the upper and lower.

Looking forward to the internals review.

Can't wait to get mine. I already started buying some differnet types of ammo to test.

Cheers
 
Even Norinco includes those.

I agree. I raised this issue (and it is a big issue in my opinion) when I received my rifle back in November. I believe NEA has failed to understand that a lot of their Canadian customers are in fact first timers to the AR platform.

A manual would do a number of things, including spelling out the exact terms of what their warranty does/doesn't cover, and specifically, how to go about getting service if there is an issue. Not to mention how to maintain/disassemble the rifle so that it stays in warrantable condition.

I suspect that if they'd addressed this right from the start, fewer complaints would have found their way to the Internet, and they'd have been able to correct some issues faster.
 
Manual, schmanual...that is what the internet is for (but a manual with spaceships on the cover would be cool ;) )I'd be pissed not to receive the poker chip though!

Looking forward to hearing how you made out at the range today.
 
... The free float hand-guard was a bit loose at first and it also made the barrel wiggle in the action, but to fix this issue all I had to do is tighten the 4 Allan screws that holds the hand-guard to the barrel nut. Also there is a hole on each side of the rails for a QD swivel attachment.

You tightened the handguard bolts and that tightened the barrel to the receiver? What's a barrel nut for?

I agree with 2bad4u2 that you should have someone knowledgeable with AR's examine the rifle first. ie. is the barrel loose to the upper receiver.
 
Review is now complete. First post edited. Enjoy the review, I hope it will help those out there who can't decide which AR to buy.

And I hope the pics helps. I'm sorry they aren't any bigger but Picasa shrinks them down.
 
you said you were using ####ty mfs ammo (and it is ####ty i hear lots of bad stuff about it, i find it tends to half cycle my ar) which explains the poor accuracy, and the varied strike points on your case deflector (ie from irregularities in the ammo)

but the trigger pin coming loose after less then 200 rounds? those pins should need a solid hit with a punch to remove, 120 rounds is nothing.

I would be livid if my gun fell apart after 120 rounds like that.

Id be taking advantage of the lifetime warranty at this point personally, give NEA a chance to make it right, and if after that I didnt get a rifle back with all the parts staying together, Id likely burn down the internet with bad reviews.
 
You tightened the handguard bolts and that tightened the barrel to the receiver? What's a barrel nut for?

I agree with 2bad4u2 that you should have someone knowledgeable with AR's examine the rifle first. ie. is the barrel loose to the upper receiver.

x2. I've noticed that the shell deflectors on the NEA rifles all get marks including my friends which was his first time shooting it. Not sure why?

Also with a 4 moa Vortex red dot sight shooting out to 100m, how much better accuracy can he achieve? MFS is not bad ammo. I shoot it through my Norinco CQ with absolutely no issues and very good accuracy. If anything, he needs to get that barrel nut checked out to see if that is a factor in his accuracy.
 
Glad you got a chance to get out and shoot your new rifle. Reviews are good things and they help both prospective buyers and attentive manufacturers.

Strange about the pin. That is an issue that I havent heard of with NEA. I've put 500+ rounds through mine and none of the pins have ever budged a wink.
 
I pushed the pin back in and it fixed the problem. But every 30 rounds or so I had to push it back in. That’s a problem that will need solving.

Are the legs of the hammer spring over or under the trigger pin?

If under, re-install it properly with the legs on top and that will prevent the trigger pin from walking out.
 
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