Nea-15

Handsomebob said:
Hey just got home from oversea's and I have been really looking forward to buying a NEA-15 14.5 in 5.56.

Only there all freaking sold out on ever website I could see.

Does anybody know a store that has this certain rifle in stock?
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Do a search on CGN with NEA as the keyword. change the parameters to posts from the past 3 years. Now you can make an informed decision
 
This is a perfect explanation of NEA. As has been stated in previous threads, NEA's are currently being used by some pretty high profile professionals. The generalized comments of "they are junk" are ridiculous and no longer have any weight. The current Gen rifles are pretty darn good.



misanthropist said:
I don't like to get into the NEA stuff too hard because I know too many of the people involved, and I don't like to get into situations in which my objectivity is hard to establish...but I know for a fact the "more flaws than any other manufacturer" statement is not based on any numbers at all.

People here sometimes forget that CGN is a tiny part of the Canadian shooting community; NEA has a terrible rep here for reasons ranging from valid to factually wrong. But I have seen their actual return and repair rates and they are not at all out of the ordinary for an AR manufacturer. The overwhelming number of issues they have can be directly traced to the fact that they sell a lot of their guns to people who don't really know much about ARs, simply because of the price point.

And RF is right...those same bolts were purchased by at least one other (and IIRC three other) manufacturers whose names everyone here would recognize.

I hate to appear to be a fan of ANY manufacturer except maybe BCM, who've been exemplary in my experience, but IMO the reputation NEA has on CGN is fairly inaccurate. They've had phases where they manufactured or resold really substandard parts, but I've seen people slam NEA who think DPMS has never had junk phases.


So to the OP, I'd say take CGN with a massive grain of salt. There are really valid critiques of some of NEA's decisions and past business practises, but personally I wouldn't hesitate to run one of their current production ARs. I have one of their early ones, which I bought with my own money after doing a level of research I GUARANTEE nobody here has come close to on the company, because I wanted to see how it would do.

It's done fine and I still shoot it. I think it's just under 4000 rounds now, mainly because I have a bunch of ARs and I spend most of my time with 16" (or thereabouts...yeah, looking right at you, CC) guns with low-powered variables, and my NEA is a SBR with a red dot.


I'm not telling you to get an NEA, nor am I telling you NOT to get something else. But I am telling you that if you did get an NEA, odds that you'd be unhappy with the performance of the gun are no higher than a lot of other manufacturers, and lower than plenty I could mention.
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OP, while your at it, do a 3 year search on mg4201's posts about NEA and decide for yourself whether his opinion is "non buyist" and one you want to take.



mg4201 said:
Do a search on CGN with NEA as the keyword. change the parameters to posts from the past 3 years. Now you can make an informed decision
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Jerry Champagne said:
I have a picture of the immediate aftermath but it's fairly graphic so I won't post it. if you'd like to see what the damage is like from a failing Norinco pm me and I'll send you the pic.
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Was it the barrel extension? Barrel itself or more to do with the bolt?

You can PM me the rifle damage if you want.
 
I had a Gen 1 NEA, great rifle. I am currently doing a build with a NEA lower and a few other NEA parts, that's how happy I was with it. No the receiver is not as nice as an ATRS lower( it's feels a bit rougher and the anodizing inside is uneven whereas the ATRS is perfect inside and out)buts it's damn good and looks perfect on the outside for less than 20% of the cost of the ATRS.
 
Norinco lower Colt IUR UPPER less then $1000 can ammo has the lowers $199 complete. Then throw on the IUR FOR AROUND $600 even though I payed over $1000 when it came out AHHHHH LOL. I would try to get a free floating barrel if you can. It's 2016 lol
 
mg4201 said:
Not to point out out the elephant in the room, but don't you have a business relationship with NEA?
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No more than I do with two dozen other CGN sponsors and competing manufacturers, which is all very arm's length, and I'd guess half of those companies do not even know who I am nor would they necessarily recognize my name...I haven't done any contract work for NEA since, I believe, 2013 at the most recent; maybe 2012.

Today I would guess I have a closer business relationship with half a dozen AR manufacturers than with NEA. If I had any sort of relationship with them that had a realistic likelihood of being altered by the state of their business, or which I could influence through this commentary, I'd have stayed quiet. I waited about two years before making a single comment in an NEA thread after our original contract finished.
 
rocco said:
Norinco lower Colt IUR UPPER less then $1000 can ammo has the lowers $199 complete. Then throw on the IUR FOR AROUND $600
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That's... actually a pretty good idea. An IUR and pretty much any lower and middle-of-the-road BCG would be a cheap way to get a decent rifle. Especially if you get the IUR and BCG used on the EE.
 
I have an NEA PDW with the 7.5 inch barrel and have never had a minutes trouble with it. Before you start, I also have a Norinco CQB, 2 Colts (Hbar and Sporter) and a DPMS AR 10 .308. I'm not an expert, but I have some experience with ARs.
 
The only NEA thing I own is a full auto bcg.

Works very well. Color of the ARC finish is far from even but as for reliability it is 100% so far after about 2000 rounds.

Cheers.
 
I own a 10.5 NEA, and its a pretty solid little gun. No issues (now), but did have some bugs that needed squashing. No issues now, rock solid.

Last I saw, you can get Bushmaster 11.5's now and then for a decent price, nothing wrong with them. Lots of choices these days.

If this is going to get into a bash NEA thread, lock it. No need to re re re hash that shiyte show anymore....
 
Jerry Champagne said:
I have a picture of the immediate aftermath but it's fairly graphic so I won't post it. if you'd like to see what the damage is like from a failing Norinco pm me and I'll send you the pic.
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Not doubting you saw this occur, but was the cause of failure ever definitively determined? I've seen much pricier rifles blown to pieces using ammo the users swore up and down were "reloaded properly" and it "must have been the damned firearm". Colour me skeptical.

I've also seen an SKS grenade from an out of battery ignition. The user cleaned it really well, just missed the caked cosmolene in the firing pin channel.

And don't get me started about Ka-Booms and Ljungmans.
 
TheGr8One said:
OP, while your at it, do a 3 year search on mg4201's posts about NEA and decide for yourself whether his opinion is "non buyist" and one you want to take.
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the word is biased. Every single word that I have typed about NEA is 100% true, I have nothing to hide, I stand behind every word I have typed. You can imply whatever you like, the fact remains, I speak the truth.
 
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