NEA AR-15's

I've long believed that the best customer service is the one that you never used. There are a lot of people in this thread praising NEA's customer service for fixing a rifle that was essentially poorly made in the first place, and one based on a spec that is nearing six decades in age.

If that's the hallmark of a good company, I think I'll pass because NEA's defenders are actually making stuff like Norinco look good -- and I laughed out loud when I laid eyes on one of those.
 
You buy a NEA, ya git wot ya git!
Regardless of the few that actually work, it's reputation is shot among the firearms community and will take more than good customer service to get back.
For people who bought NEA because they are a "value priced" gun, be aware that when you sell your " custom build AR that never fails, NEA upper blah, blah,blah" on the EE, you better have fire sale prices on them as most knowledgeable AR guys will just skip the ad.
I would rather have a Norc than a NEA. At least Norinco doesn't promise anything!

NEA owners,ask yourself honestly. If money no object, would you still buy NEA knowing it's reputation now?
 
bobbynewmark said:
Some people just can't let go.. You are confusing your opinion and 'what you think" and feel as FACT .. which they are not. Then you go on to compare USA brands and their current pricing? What does that have to do with a conversation about quality? YES America has a GLUT in supply right now, even with our low dollar US guns can be had for good deals compared to the extortion prices that were happening on guns and ammo when in huge demand.. GO BUY THE GUN OF YOUR DREAMS NOW!! I just bought a sweet ass Stag AR :)

That doesn't change the fact That NEA puts out a decent product and takes care of their clients... Prices of USA goods will go up and down for lots of reasons, so comparing to the rock bottom prices of guns there right now won't always be an option. FTR I think NEA should lower their price to around the $1000 mark, esp with forgings instead of billet.
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It is fact, how can you sit there and there are say it isnt? Im not saying that their not "decent" but in a world of "great" gun for the same price why buy "decent"?
I have seen people put alot of rounds through their nea's but ive also seen more issues with nea's more then any other manufacturer.
So spend your hard earned money on a "decent gun with great customer service" oh wait, you didnt you bought a stag.
 
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cr5 said:
Because one rifle isn't enough for me and I can still afford ammo and I'm going to a CQB course in September and until the rifle with NEA parts (third rifle in pic) has issues it's a good gun in my books. That rifle only has an NEA upper receiver and BCG, the barrel is Bushmaster and the forend is AP customs carbon fiber.

So you don't own an NEA rifle, just some of their questionable parts? That doesn't speak highly of your trust in NEA.

I will eventually swap out the NEA BCG to another Fail Zero nickel boron unit like the one I have in my 300BLK upper that has a DD upper and my custom made stainless barrel.

Again no offence, but the FZ products are absolute snake oil. Regardless, your purchasing them tells me you're after top of the line performance, you appreciate gear that runs. So why take the chance of having a rifle or parts fail by buying cheap?

I agree there isn't much logic in owning high and low end rifles but using their parts makes for a cheaper build. I probably wouldn't ever buy a complete rifle but using a few of their parts in a build works for me as long as everything is built to spec and the rest of my parts go in without issues.

There's the problem right there. NEA guns and parts are not held to any spec let alone mil spec. When an upper won't mate to a lower, it's out of spec. Bolts that blow up, handgurds that rotate, comps that split. Please, sell me more "built to spec" parts. Lets not forget their unethical schilling that went on in an attempt to sell the brand. Why would you do that if your product was as good as some say?????

I'm not trying to say or convince anyone that NEA is top end gear but I don't think it's as bad as many like to think it is. They've had some issues and they still have the odd problem but for the most part their parts work and are reliable.

Even owning these I still shop the EE for deals. I'm never satisfied, lol.
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I've swapped around glass a little since this pic. The 9mm (second from top) now has my Aimpoint PRO and the AR180 is back to iron sights for now.
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GuiltySpark said:
Good job security for their armorers though :)


You should put her up on the CQB picture thread here.



It's what you, and I, would expect but we both know it's not what we will get. There's tons of stories about big name companies like Remington ####ing off people trying to get warranty repair work done. People waiting over a year. I've heard HK can be pretty rough too. Just heard from someone a couple days ago who had a pistol explode and when he sent it back they decided he was using hand loaded ammo (I know him, he wasn't) and they voided the warranty. Now he's got a 7 month old $1300 paper weight.

Well Remington is a sh*t brand as well so I'm not surprised in the least, and HK has always been the d*ck of the industry when it comes to customer service for the lowly civilian. Perhaps that may be part of the reason they are in receivership. What you are forgetting to address is that warranty work that must transit the border is always going to be a dog's breakfast. With that in mind, I buy brands that I am confident won't ever need warranty, and I go into the purchase under the impression that there is NO WARRANTY. If you are convinced to buy a product because they have a good warranty, it isn't a good product.

That's ####ty man. You, uh, thinking of selling that broken PDW? (seriously)

Re bolded sentence, you're 100% right. NEAs are inexpensive. If you want to spend cheap and risk them breaking go for it. If you want the peace of mind of something that doesn't seem to have a 25% failure rate spend more money.
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GunsNotPuns said:
I've long believed that the best customer service is the one that you never used. There are a lot of people in this thread praising NEA's customer service for fixing a rifle that was essentially poorly made in the first place, and one based on a spec that is nearing six decades in age.

If that's the hallmark of a good company, I think I'll pass because NEA's defenders are actually making stuff like Norinco look good -- and I laughed out loud when I laid eyes on one of those.
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Right on the mark!! :cheers:

Still alive said:
You buy a NEA, ya git wot ya git!
Regardless of the few that actually work, it's reputation is shot among the firearms community and will take more than good customer service to get back.
For people who bought NEA because they are a "value priced" gun, be aware that when you sell your " custom build AR that never fails, NEA upper blah, blah,blah" on the EE, you better have fire sale prices on them as most knowledgeable AR guys will just skip the ad.
I would rather have a Norc than a NEA. At least Norinco doesn't promise anything!

NEA owners,ask yourself honestly. If money no object, would you still buy NEA knowing it's reputation now?
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There are an awful lot of NEA guns on the EE, and the prices are near new, well near the current new prices. Good luck selling them guys, but you're going to take a serious bath on them if you expect to move it. Might be better to hang on to it.

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TW25B said:
So you don't own an NEA rifle, just some of their questionable parts? That doesn't speak highly of your trust in NEA.

Again no offence, but the FZ products are absolute snake oil. Regardless, your purchasing them tells me you're after top of the line performance, you appreciate gear that runs. So why take the chance of having a rifle or parts fail by buying cheap?
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I already said earlier that if my life was on the line I would grab my PWS. All I'm saying is that for general play at the range where no one is shooting back NEA parts will do as long as you get parts that are compatible with the rest of the build. I don't need to trust them because nothing is on the line. If they ever fail I would just use one of my other rifles while I wait for replacement parts.

I understand where you're coming from though not wanting to waste money on questionable parts when for a little more money you can have quality products of known good quality. I just think people get a little too caught up in wanting the high end battle worthy and proven rifles when most will probably only put a couple hundred rounds through the rifle a year. I put thousands of rounds downrange a year and for me as long as my rifle runs I'm happy. If NEA didn't stand behind their products the way they do I would treat them like a Norinco M-forgery and wouldn't go near them but as long as they keep replacing anything that fails I won't lose any sleep over owning a rifle that has some of their parts.
I actually almost bought a Noveske upper a couple days ago to swap into my rifle with the NEA upper, when I'm finished moving to my new place I'll be grabbing one and a new BCG :)
See, I do like quality and I see there is a difference but so far my NEA parts have been just as reliable as any others and have saved me money.


What's wrong with FZ parts? They're mil-spec and I love the nickel boron coating. I just take it out and wipe it off with a rag and it looks like new. Even with no oil at all it still feels slick.

I'm doing a 2 day CQB course in Sept and as long as the 16 inch isn't going to be a hindrance compared to using my 12 inch PWS I'll use the rifle with NEA parts for at least one of the days and run it through the ringer. Maybe I'll loan it to my buddy for the course so he doesn't have to use his SKS. If anything fails I'll give up on them and sell all NEA parts for firesale prices. If it survives I'll keep defending them. I guess 200-300 rounds in a day isn't much of a torture test, I've easily put that many through it in a normal afternoon playing at the range.
 
skoal said:
It is fact, how can you sit there and there are say it isnt? Im not saying that their not "decent" but in a world of "great" gun for the same price why buy "decent"?
I have seen people put alot of rounds through their nea's but ive also seen more issues with nea's more then any other manufacturer.
So spend your hard earned money on a "decent gun with great customer service" oh wait, you didnt you bought a stag.
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I can count the ORIGINAL verified stories of failures on one hand, but they just keep goin round and round and round..

they HAD bad BCG... fixed

The only 'out of spec' I have seen is tight upper lugs (better than loose and EASILY rectified) and one or two sloppy dust cover ports..

A quick search of the net will show other examples of billet AR uppers that have had similar issues...which is likely why most people buy and use forged. I think the NEA upper would be great for a target build because of the tight tolerances.

LOTS of other ppl have had misaligned flash hiders and shot them off OR that have come loose, then gotten shot off or apart.. How many verified reports of NEA? One???

internet gun critics are just like movie critics.. if there wasn't a flaw they wouldn't have anything to do

:)

And I bought A Stag because for this one snapshot in time because the price is right :) No guarantee that doesn't change tomorrow
 
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bobbynewmark said:
I can count the ORIGINAL verified stories of failures on one hand, but they just keep goin round and round and round..

they HAD bad BCG... fixed

The only 'out of spec' I have seen is tight upper lugs (better than loose and EASILY rectified) and one or two sloppy dust cover ports..

A quick search of the net will show other examples of billet AR uppers that have had similar issues...which is likely why most people buy and use forged. I think the NEA upper would be great for a target build because of the tight tolerances.

LOTS of other ppl have had misaligned flash hiders and shot them off OR that have come loose, then gotten shot off or apart.. How many verified reports of NEA? One???

internet gun critics are just like movie critics.. if there wasn't a flaw they wouldn't have anything to do

:)

And I bought A Stag because for this one snapshot in time because the price is right :) No guarantee that doesn't change tomorrow
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The Stag lower I used to own had the best factory trigger I've felt so far, not counting high dollar rifles that come standard with an aftermarket unit of course. :)
I must have used that lower with 4 or 5 uppers before I sold it as part of a precision build.
 
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