Neck clearance?

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What is optimal neck clearance for a long range hunting rifle?

I'm measuring .0017-.002 from a once fired loaded round to a once fired empty case.

Should I be neck turning my brass to get an extra 1 thou clearance?

Chamber is very minimal spec as FL resizing die isn't moving much brass

300PRC, hornady brass, 245 EOL bergers

thx
 
Clearance is clearance... 2 thou is most often considered minimum in a field rifle. You can't really measure the actual neck diameter of the chamber by the size of the fired brass... fired brass springs back a bit... so your measurements are perfectly acceptable if your brass remains consistent.
 
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Bench rest shooters try to keep the neck dimensions within .002 in of the internal diameter of the chamber on their rifles.

The neck area dimension is usually cut to a diameter that is to tight to accept factory brass, as it comes, with a bullet in place.

They turn down the necks, so that there is .002 clearance with a bullet inserted and the chamber.

Some hunters, that are serious accuracy freaks. get special reamers made up to bring the clearances down to minimum, to eliminate another variable.

I have a 338-08 with such a chamber. It was cut that way because I used a normal 308 Palma Match reamer to cut the chamber, then opened up the neck throat with a special neck/throat reamer. When I bought that neck/throat reamer, second hand, I didn't realize it was cut to minimum specs.

I was using Norma Match brass, which may or may not have had necks thicker than most commercial brass. I had to turn all of the case necks so they would fit into the chamber of my rifle.

I'm lucky and have a lathe. All I need to do is turn down an appropriate mandrel, slip the neck over it, while holding the base in a holder on the tailstock and turn it to the appropriate diameter.

For those that don't have a lathe, Brownelle's makes a handy little hand tool that does a reasonable job.

The only reason I can see for turning neck diameters on any cartridge is to get uniform neck tensions.

Most rifles have rather generous necks, to accommodate any commercial load. When you remove material, the necks have to expand more and as such get worked more when resizing. Likely not enough to make a lot of difference.
 
If a bullet will drop into a fired case you have enough neck clearance. If the bullet wont drop in then it may be a little tight. Some cartridges dont mind the extra tension some do. Only way to find out is to load test at distance.
 
If a bullet will drop into a fired case you have enough neck clearance. If the bullet wont drop in then it may be a little tight. Some cartridges dont mind the extra tension some do. Only way to find out is to load test at distance.

A bullet will not drop into the fired case...there is enough tension to hold the bullet and find the OAL to the lands by clambering it in the rifle.
 
I run all mine with minimum. 004" neck clearance so i would neck turn a bit off. You would probably only need to skim turn them. But if it shoots fine and doesnt cause vertical fliers at distance its probably fine to leave it. The issue you might have is if you change brass brands and the necks one is thicker. It can cause an increase in preasure if isnt any clearance.
 
A bullet will not drop into the fired case...there is enough tension to hold the bullet and find the OAL to the lands by clambering it in the rifle.

The brass springs back after expanding and releasing the bullet freely... that is why you can not use fired brass to accurately measure the chamber neck diameter. I have seen many instances where there is sufficient neck clearance and yet the end of the fired case has closed up so a bullet won't drop in... I suggest you have the chamber neck measured by a gunsmith.

Who chambered the rifle? Perhaps they can supply the reamer specs.
 
The brass springs back after expanding and releasing the bullet freely... that is why you can not use fired brass to accurately measure the chamber neck diameter. I have seen many instances where there is sufficient neck clearance and yet the end of the fired case has closed up so a bullet won't drop in... I suggest you have the chamber neck measured by a gunsmith.

Who chambered the rifle? Perhaps they can supply the reamer specs.

Thanks, I'll give them a call to find out as the barrel was just recently replaced under warranty.
 
I run all mine with minimum. 004" neck clearance so i would neck turn a bit off. You would probably only need to skim turn them. But if it shoots fine and doesnt cause vertical fliers at distance its probably fine to leave it. The issue you might have is if you change brass brands and the necks one is thicker. It can cause an increase in preasure if isnt any clearance.

Think I'll go this route with 20 brass to see what it will do...I do seem to get a slight sticky bolt lift with no other pressure signs.
 
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