A young fellow at the ranger the other day offered me his once fired federal 30-06 brass. I only have neck sizing dies. I checked all of his brass and they all fit fine in my rifle. They feel just like my fired case's. Any reason I couldn't just neck size this brass and use it ? I'm thinking it should be fine. Yes/No ??
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If they chamber easily before sizing, run them through the dies and see if anything changes.
If nothing changes, good to go!
Sounds like your rifle has a bit looser chamber than his. Thats not all bad, just one of those things.
Cheers
Trev
If nothing changes, good to go!
Sounds like your rifle has a bit looser chamber than his. Thats not all bad, just one of those things.
Cheers
Trev
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Yup if it fits with out having to force it your good to go, load up and it will form to your chamber when fired.
On that note pick up a FL die. As a few firings down the road your gonna have to bump the shoulder back on all your cases anyway so the will chamber properly
On that note pick up a FL die. As a few firings down the road your gonna have to bump the shoulder back on all your cases anyway so the will chamber properly
Thanks, Yes they chamber just like my own rounds. I'll have to keep a eye open for him at the range. Good price 
I'll have to watch for a used set of full lenght dies.
I'll have to watch for a used set of full lenght dies.
Listen to this man. I learned by doing. Listening is better.
Another bit of advice. Even though you are neck sizing only, your brass will still stretch.
As mentioned before, a FL resizer will be needed after a few reloads. Also, you will need to trim the case mouths to keep them consistent in length and square.
Learn how to anneal your brass as well and it will last you a long time.
As mentioned before, a FL resizer will be needed after a few reloads. Also, you will need to trim the case mouths to keep them consistent in length and square.
Learn how to anneal your brass as well and it will last you a long time.
gtg, do yourself a favor. Buy a new, top of the line F/L die. You suggest looking for a used on. Eh what? I'm guessing an $800 to $1000 rifle, maybe $600 for the scope on top, bullets running 30 to 100 cents a pop, and you want to cheap out on a tool that will last until after your grandson inherits it, sizing tens of thousands of rounds in the process?
A best quality, true, concentric die, that you absolutely know has not been abused, scratched, corroded, and isn't being sold because it is out of round is one of the most important investments a shooter can get. But if you want a cheap used one, go for it. btw, you can neck size with a F/L dies, just not the other way around, so next set of dies you buy for your next caliber, spend the bucks first on an F/L die, and get a neck size die if the rifle shows exceptional promise for accuracy, AND for loads you only fire for group. Having a neck sized cartridge that the bolt won't close on when you see Bambi's Uncle Buck will dissuade you from necksizing, I hope.
A best quality, true, concentric die, that you absolutely know has not been abused, scratched, corroded, and isn't being sold because it is out of round is one of the most important investments a shooter can get. But if you want a cheap used one, go for it. btw, you can neck size with a F/L dies, just not the other way around, so next set of dies you buy for your next caliber, spend the bucks first on an F/L die, and get a neck size die if the rifle shows exceptional promise for accuracy, AND for loads you only fire for group. Having a neck sized cartridge that the bolt won't close on when you see Bambi's Uncle Buck will dissuade you from necksizing, I hope.
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He only needs a body die not a FL die if he has a neck sizer. Inexpensive and simple. Federal brass will probably not last long enough to need annealing...primers will fall out. Agree with sorting your brass, but worry about that AFTER you have formed to your gun/chamber.
If the cases chamber properly "after" neck sizing, your good to go.
It is wise to have a full length sizing die/body die on hand If your cases start to get tight after repeated fireings & neck sizings.
With neck sized cases, there is normally an increase in precision/accuracy in most rifles.
If these rifles are to be used for hunting, some guys dont want to have trouble chambering a tight fireformed case. This is logical,But, if a reloader who wants absolute precsion in thier hunting rifle (and neck sized cases happen to be the load recipe preferred by that rifle), a shooter/hunter should always check his cases in his rifle after sizing. This would in an absute
Way eliminate chambering problems with the hunting ammo. After the cases pass that test, a reloader can reload the cases and use them with confidence.
I have never had a problem with an overly tight case in my hunting ammo because I follow this proceedure.
A "slightly" snug cartridge while target shooting doesnt amount to much. But, I do set those cases aside to be shoulder "bumped".
Keeping your cases organised, will ensure your enjoyment in the field.
Good luck, and keep it fun you gunnuts!
It is wise to have a full length sizing die/body die on hand If your cases start to get tight after repeated fireings & neck sizings.
With neck sized cases, there is normally an increase in precision/accuracy in most rifles.
If these rifles are to be used for hunting, some guys dont want to have trouble chambering a tight fireformed case. This is logical,But, if a reloader who wants absolute precsion in thier hunting rifle (and neck sized cases happen to be the load recipe preferred by that rifle), a shooter/hunter should always check his cases in his rifle after sizing. This would in an absute
Way eliminate chambering problems with the hunting ammo. After the cases pass that test, a reloader can reload the cases and use them with confidence.
I have never had a problem with an overly tight case in my hunting ammo because I follow this proceedure.
A "slightly" snug cartridge while target shooting doesnt amount to much. But, I do set those cases aside to be shoulder "bumped".
Keeping your cases organised, will ensure your enjoyment in the field.
Good luck, and keep it fun you gunnuts!
What do you hunt, dth? Where I hunt, we ain't got concrete benches, flat shooting lanes, wind flags and KD. Nor does my gun bearer much favor carrying the requisite sand bags and piano stool to set me up for a shot milking that last thou precision for my POI. So if my reliable hunting load is evern a whole .25 MOA less precise than my rifle's best load, I accept that in the wind and the wobble and the size of a moose heart. But i ain't using my leades as a bullet puller in the field!
Don't get too hung up on neck sizing.
If the gun does not shoot well with full size it won't make much diff.
Easier loading yes but can also cause head aches u don't need. Specially in magnum cases.
And not to mention tapping bolts open with blocks of wood.
It works and effective. I used to br shoot a lot and fine tuned with this method.
It is what it is
Cheers
If the gun does not shoot well with full size it won't make much diff.
Easier loading yes but can also cause head aches u don't need. Specially in magnum cases.
And not to mention tapping bolts open with blocks of wood.
It works and effective. I used to br shoot a lot and fine tuned with this method.
It is what it is
Cheers
I reloaded 100 cases of commercial reg brass (rem, win) 6 times on a 300 win mag with a lee collet die only (600 rounds) and never got a failure to close the bolt.
I noticed that a few rounds were "tight" to close the bolt, but nothing terrible.
Only one neck split, annealed the whole batch, didnt get another split.
At this point I sold my rifle so I will probably FL size the whole batch and start like new brass.
The fact that you do not need to lube the cases saves me alot of time.
I noticed that a few rounds were "tight" to close the bolt, but nothing terrible.
Only one neck split, annealed the whole batch, didnt get another split.
At this point I sold my rifle so I will probably FL size the whole batch and start like new brass.
The fact that you do not need to lube the cases saves me alot of time.
