need a longer range rifle!!

I have a 6mm Remington. Its great..But its getting to be real hard to find factory ammo. This calibre is stupid easy to get decent groups with. I find the biggest limiting factor isnt the gun, but finding ranges over 300m where you can actually shoot it. I find that its easy to get 1-2 inch groups at around 200-250 yards... Rifle is a nice custom model 700. Lately Ive been thinking about either buying a small press or getting it rechamber because I would like to shoot it more.

The .243 is pretty easy to find everywhere.

1000yards... Its a long way! Beyond my skill.
 
I'm all for the LR hunting thing but as others noted it is only cool if done in an ethical manner which is determined by ones capabilities. 500 yards is relatively close...on paper. For that matter so is a mile but once it is a live animal is involved different rules apply. When doing this type of shooting a 300 RUM is a good choice, just ask mysticplayer, I've seen the damage he could do at long range and its scary, then again I would guess he puts over 3000 rounds down range in a year mabey more.
 
so i was just down at the local store lookin at various .243's a ruger, and a savage, well the savage was a .270 but i guess the rifle is the same, to achieve what i'd eventually want i'd need a different stock for the ruger, cause its not free floated, the savage was, and had the accu trigger which i like, i think. ability to adjust myself and all.. but that stock scares me, and the guys didn't talk to highly of savage, nor the .243 cartridge, figured i'd be much better off with a .270 due to windage.. how bad can a 90gr or so bullet from a 243 get? compared to a .270 and then to, lets say a 300 win mag.?
 
The .243 is a superior cartridge to the .270, because a larger selection of better bullets (for LR shooting) is available.
And Ruger rifles are generally not the best picks for LR rigs.

Yes, a .300 WinMag is an excellent LR cartridge; but launching 200 grain bullets at 3000 fps will beat you up.
6.5mm currently dominates the LR scene, and 6mm will really start to challenge it as longer bullets become more available.
 
marlin1895gs said:
im not really too concerned about recoil tho, i can launch 405 gr bullets at 2000 fps all day without trouble, and heavy slugs too,

what about the wsm cartridges? is there a site somewhere with ballistics comparison charts?
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If you don't mind recoil, then one of the big .338 cartridges are for you! Or even .50 BMG. Both of these hit very hard at long range, and are a bit easier to dope wind with.
 
Somewhat intrigued by this post.

From what you've indicated, I would look at the 338 Remington Ultra Mag.
It still retains nearly 2000 ft.lbs. of energy at 500 yds with the 250gr.
Swift A-Frame, while dropping only about 5" more than the 300 Ultra Mag with the 200 gr. Swift at the same range. Should be a lot more economical (although still not "cheap") to shoot than someting like the 338 Lapua or 338/378 Weatherby, and still have enough grunt left to get the job done at that range ... ethics, bullet placement & skill levels to reliably do such, all being other matters entirely.
 
so i was comparing prices today of ammo 300 win mag isn't that much more then 243, if it can shoot anything like a .243 (from what i hear) i think it'd be a better choice? still maybe something bigger, but i'd be real nice to pick up some 300 Win mag from the local canadian tire and off to the range for cheap how much does it lack compared to a ultra mag?
 
marlin1895gs said:
so i was comparing prices today of ammo 300 win mag isn't that much more then 243, if it can shoot anything like a .243 (from what i hear) i think it'd be a better choice? still maybe something bigger, but i'd be real nice to pick up some 300 Win mag from the local canadian tire and off to the range for cheap how much does it lack compared to a ultra mag?
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The difference is down the road, once you get into it, the 300 is 74+g and the 243 is 40g of powder with less recoil. The RUM's IMO just burn more powder (90-100g) for very little if any gain in speed since you then are using even bigger bullets and more recoil. The more powder you burn the more heat and less barrel life.

The 243 and 308 have a very good case design and just plain shoot and I would recommend regardless of type (Rem, Savage, etc), pick your rig based on the barrel twist since you have to use the right bullet too. 6mm and 105g or 107g bullets used in LR need 1-8 or 1-9 twists. If you go to bigger yet (115 Tubbs etc) a 1-7 twist would be better. 308 and 155g bullet use 1-13, 168/175g use 1-12, and 190-220 use 1-10. 308 and 243 would be the cheapest and most easily found off the shelf rifle to get your feet wet.
 
Maybe it's time to re-focus here. A 300 is a lot different than a 243, and a big 338 is different still. What do you plan on shooting with this?


I see it like this:

223 < 1000yd, varmints/target only.
243 ~ 1000yd varmints/target, < 200yd deer
264 ~ 1200yd varmints/target, < 400yd deer, < 300 yd moose/elk
308 < 1000yd varmints/target, < 400yd deer, < 300 yd moose/elk
300 ~ 1000yd target/deer, ~700yd moose/elk
338 < 1600yd target/deer, ~1200yd moose
 
thanks for that prosper, thats what i wanted to see, i think the 300 is for me.. range is ok, ammo readily avail. and reasonable, can take any game i would need it too, rifle wont be expensive (initial and mainetance) doesn't cost much more to send much more lead down range compared to a 243, and its less susseptable to wind, eventually switch over to a 338 rum or other large cartridge next year or something, and hpoefully be able to use the same scope.
 
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