need a slug gun--opinions

[Covey Ridge]

and when i mean take a shot at it, yes it would be clean i should have written it differently, i meant the gun needs the ability to take down deer at 200 yards.

If the slug connects with the vital of a deer it will go down. In that sense it has the ability. It does not have the abiltiy in that connection with the vitals at 200 yards is low on probabilty of a clean hit.

 

[Brutus]

isn't a frontier a restricted rifle? i thought everything with a 18.5" or shorter barrel was?

matt

No, it is non-restricted. This is because it is a bolt action rifle.
This includes pump action, single shot, or lever action centerfire rifles as well.

It is only centerfire semi-automatics under(18.5) that fall under restricted classification.
Of course UNLESS this model or variant is on the prohibited list due to Orders In Council.

Confusing huh???
If I missed anything, any expert please correct me.....

A great example of this, is all the popular Trapper model lever guns,(16 inch barrelled carbines)
EDIT: Short, lever action, & a non-restricted rifle.

 

[popcan]

If you are whacking bushes, then it doesn't sound like you need a 200-yard gun... unless that is two different uses.

CZ also makes a nice carbine length rifle, good for the bush.
Or look for a 30-30 Winchester lever gun. Plenty for close deer encounters.

 

[Wildbore]

I recommend a good scope that can take punishment if you are using a slug gun at 200 yards. A bead sight probably won't cut it at those distances.

And yea, barrels under 18.5 are legal if it is a pump, lever, bolt, break or single shot.

 

[awesomeame]

ok thanks for the info. So I have a few things to look into then!

Ruger M77/MarkII Compact-----902mm/2.8kgs
Ruger .44
Marlin 336
CZ 527 carbine---------------oval length 950mm/2.7kgs
Blaser professional tracking----oval length 950mm/2.8kgs
Tikka T3 battue lite-----------oval length 1010mm/2.8kgs
Remington 7615 tactical-------oval length 927mm/3.2kgs (dreaded R!)

I looked at the 336 last night, but i think I'll have to pass on the lever's-with the mitts I wear in the winter/fall, it'll just be too clumsy! Although the 336 was pretty darn comforatble to hold!

Now trying to find the rest of these rifles is the hard part! Any other suggestions ? Thanks!

Matt

 

[Sako300]

Hey, if you want a 200 yd , stump thumpin', brush sweepin' deer banger, have a look at the marlin 1895 lever ( nice in stainless/walnut) and top it with a small red dot scope for under a grand. They are light, and 45/70 could double as a moose/bear gun too. Recoil is very tame.....my wife loves hers.

 

[B-N]

How about

Browning BAR short trac 1040mm(41")/2.9kgs(6.6lbs)

Browning BLR 1016mm(40")/2.9Kgs(6.6lbs)

Winchester SXR 1050mm(41.3")/3.2Kgs(7.2lbs)

Benelli R1 1060mm (41.75")/3.2Kgs(7.1lbs)

R@!#% 7600 1040mm(42.6")/3.4Kgs(7.5lbs)

R@!#% 750 1040mm(42.6")/3.4Kgs(7.5lbs)

In THIS list the remmys would be my last choice, wither the R1 or BAR short trac would go #1, relatively lightweight, recoil reduction of the autoloader, fairly compact, and both should be more than accurate enough for 200 yard shots. You might end up leaving your a-bolt at home more than you think.

One last thing, the wood stock ruger compact is listed as 2.6Kgs(5 3/4 lbs) and would likely be my choice.

 

[HairTrigger]

Have you ever thought of getting a 20 gauge slug gun? They shoot flatter, cheaper to buy and shoot, and are lighter to carry. I know what your thinking, bigger is better, so I need a 12 gauge, right. well the 20g hits just as hard and flies just as far as the 12g. trust me, if your hunting deer with a shotgun and don't plan on using SSG or buck shot, the 20 gauge is your best friend.
Thats my 2 cents

 

[Win/64]

Have you ever thought of getting a 20 gauge slug gun? They shoot flatter, cheaper to buy and shoot, and are lighter to carry. I know what your thinking, bigger is better, so I need a 12 gauge, right. well the 20g hits just as hard and flies just as far as the 12g. trust me, if your hunting deer with a shotgun and don't plan on using SSG or buck shot, the 20 gauge is your best friend.
Thats my 2 cents

X2 I have a friend with an 1187 slug gun 20ga and it's just deadly accurate.

 

[Snuffy]

For our slug gun deer season we use a
Savage bolt action full rifle 22" barrel and
Single shot H&R heavy full rifle 22" barrel

The savage shoots about 2" low at 150yards
Te H&R shoots about the same.

 

[Meanee00]

Other rifle options I can personally think of:

Ruger Frontier Rifle, 16.5 inch barrel
Remington Model 7, 18.5 & 20 inch
Older Remington 600/660, 18.5 & 20 inch barrels(definitely out of production)
Older Savage Scout Rifle (I think it's out of production?)

I think Brutus is onto something with the scout style set up. Both the Ruger and also the Savage scout would work well, in addition I believe there is a scout scope mount available for the BLR( its a Lever, but at least the trigger moves with the lever unlike most other levers). Since you stated you'll be shooting at relatively short distances(well at least not long distance) A 2X scope would work well. With a little bit of practice on your part you'll be able to shoulder the rfile and sight your prey very quickly and easily using both eyes.

 

[dutchhunter]

i think he needs a M!1 30 cal

 

[Brutus]

X2 I have a friend with an 1187 slug gun 20ga and it's just deadly accurate.

I too have an Ithaca M37 with a rifled M87, 20 inch barrel.

There is certainly an advantage to the 20 VS 12 gauge, for more range during deer hunting season.
But this often comes at an added $$$. Any decent 20 gauge sabots, often have really stellar performance and a flatter trajectory. These are factory sabots with a definite 'aim' of providing a superior deer stopping calibre.

If one really cares not of the cash cost, these premium rounds and say a Savage or Browning rifled bolt action shotgun are the cat's meow.

So top quality is married to a very specialized rifled shotgun/bolt action/hinge action. These often are popular in shotgun only jurisdictions, with those that can afford them & the costly ammo, that is.

A short barrelled rifle, for most hunters is a better option for those who have a legal choice. There are tons more ammunition capabilities. With the big plus of a longer effective range.
(cast vs copper jacketed, reloads vs factory, premium vs plain vanilla bullets)

As mentioned previously by others, those set up for scout rifle concept, with a forward mounted fixed scope. This may be the best 'pick of the litter' for your specific hunting conditions.

A close second would be any good carbine, with a conventionally mounted, varible optical sight.
Just my opinion......