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I have recently acquired a Weirauch HW 80, 4.5mm, spring actuated rifle. Lovely craftsmanship shows in the fit and finish.

It's in excellent overall condition. No wear or scratches I can see on any surface. It's incredibly accurate with the three different makes and weights of pellets I've tried in it at 25 yards. Velocity is around 475 fps with the lightest weight pellets.

I need a reasonable value to place on this rifle as it isn't to my interests.

Thanx


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D&L airgun, a Weirauch dealer, has them new for $643.99 and HW's hold their value very well.

I own a HW97 and they are indeed excellent air rifles.
 
How did you measure the velocity?

If it is only 475 f/s something is wrong with the rifle. Possibly a broken spring is short... The velocity is supposed to be around 1000 f/s for an HW80. I have had an HW30 (the smallest they make I believe) and it is over 600 f/s.
 
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Yes it would as D+L sells the neutered one as well.Only thing to change out is full powered spring.BTW you don't want a 1000ps .177 as they are way too hold sensitive.I'd get either a .22 barrel for it or put a 12lb British kit in it slowing it ti 750-800fps and making for an all round better gun.I have the PAL 80K/.22 kills like a .22 short.
 
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mbogo3 said:
https://dlairgun.com/collections/weihrauch-rifles/products/hw-80
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Weird how the description reads... "the powerful main spring guarantee an extraordinary efficiency and penetration power especially at longer distances" and then lists a velocity of 495.

I would be real disappointed if I bought an HW80 and found out it was a low velocity model and not marked any different than a high powered HW80.

The factory website for Weihrauch only shows high velocity HW80's. The low velocity ones must be aftermarket alterations.
https://www.weihrauch-sport.de/air-rifles/hw-80-hw-80-k?lang=en
 
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grauhanen said:
Most Weihrauch springers sold in Canada are available in sub-500 fps models as well as full power. The sub-500 fps versions do not require the buyer to have a PAL, only that he be 18 years old or older.
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Like I said in the previous post...

Weird how the description reads... "the powerful main spring guarantee an extraordinary efficiency and penetration power especially at longer distances" and then lists a velocity of 495.

I would be real disappointed if I bought an HW80 and found out it was a low velocity model and not marked any different than a high powered HW80.

The factory website for Weihrauch only shows high velocity HW80's. The low velocity ones must be aftermarket alterations.
https://www.weihrauch-sport.de/air-r...w-80-k?lang=en
 
It's just standard blurb and clearly the non-PAL version. If you have a licence, it's quite easy to put a high power spring or tuning kit in it.
They do hold their value but in any case, 80% of the new price is generally a reasonable guide.
 
The British are stuck with the 12 ft/lb airgun law but still better than our 500fps HS .I have a full power HW 80 mainspring and guide I'd sell if you or your buyer feels they need more HP.
 
12 ft lb is a lot better than 500 fps but you can get a more powerful airgun on a FAC. They are harder to get than a PAL though. Off topic, but I would have been happy with 12 ft lb like I had there but had to get a PAL for anything decent. The irony is that opened up a whole world of other things too.
 
ddtank said:
12 ft lb is a lot better than 500 fps but you can get a more powerful airgun on a FAC. They are harder to get than a PAL though. Off topic, but I would have been happy with 12 ft lb like I had there but had to get a PAL for anything decent. The irony is that opened up a whole world of other things too.
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I'm confused...

FAC's have not been valid for many years and the present PAL replaced the FAC - same regulations.
 
We mimicked the Brits with the FAC firearms acquisition certificate told we only needed one in your lifetime costing a mere $50 /a lie of course. Cash cow that expired every 5 years needing a renewal that just rose in price.Became todays PAL.
 
The rifle was checked out by a friend with a Chrony for me.

I don't have much experience with spring actuated air rifles. My main experience with pneumatic rifles was an Air Force Talon, which had a take off tank that had to be recharged. Velocities with 22 cal pellets were well over 1000fps and I only had the choice between two different brands of pellets that were hard enough to reliably shoot without stripping out at highest velocities.

Thanx for the information.

mbogo3, I don't intend to keep this rifle. I have to many irons in the fire now and I really don't need to get into another venue. Thanx for your offer for the springs.


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bearhunter said:
The rifle was checked out by a friend with a Chrony for me.

I don't have much experience with spring actuated air rifles. My main experience with pneumatic rifles was an Air Force Talon, which had a take off tank that had to be recharged. Velocities with 22 cal pellets were well over 1000fps and I only had the choice between two different brands of pellets that were hard enough to reliably shoot without stripping out at highest velocities.
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Lighter or heavier pellet weight can be used to achieve higher or lower velocities.

Velocities over 1000 f/s are inaccurate compared to velocities under 1000 f/s. (Due to exceeding the sound barrier and then dropping back though it)

I have a regulated AA510 with the velocity set at 950 f/s with a heavy pellet and at 50 yards you can cover the groups with a dime.

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I am not really up on the air guns, but I find that 1000 is too fast, the best ones I have seen have been in the 700 fps range,
If you shot at a 3/4 in spruce board, you would see what the speed is , 400 it would make a dimple, 1000 ft,- hole, watch for bounce back.
 
guntech said:
Lighter or heavier pellet weight can be used to achieve higher or lower velocities.

Velocities over 1000 f/s are inaccurate compared to velocities under 1000 f/s. (Due to exceeding the sound barrier and then dropping back though it)

I have a regulated AA510 with the velocity set at 950 f/s with a heavy pellet and at 50 yards you can cover the groups with a dime.

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That was pretty much my experience with the Air Force Talon. I kept the velocity setting around 900fps for best accuracy and out to 50 yards it was very accurate. It had a Lothar Walther barrel which was swaged to size over the last foot or so of the barrel.

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Who knew the Gov't would make rules regular folks can't follow leaving it up to them to interpret and enforce as needed.Changing pellet weights does indeed change velocity........unenforceable with any consistency........cold weather will also make your gun slower etc It's like them giving you a speeding ticket because your car can do 200kmph but are you guilty of speeding ? You are in possession but prove the intent.
 
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