Need Advice On Bipods Vs Shooting Rest

No offence Terry It is just my sick sence of humour if you knew me you would understand I love to push buttons.. All shooting sports are great and we each have our own shooting styles that work for us, to say one is better than the other is arrogant and I only do it in humor. But some day you bench rest guys will learn to shoot!!!:p :p :D
 
Versapods come in both aluminum and all steel versions. Needless to say the all steel is the better option for heavy rifles. Last year the also came out with a pan and tilt lock so the shooter can adjust the tension on these 2 adjustments, unlike the Harris.
They also have springs inside the legs to deploy the legs, and unlike the Harris are not noisy and you can not be bitten by the operation of the bipod.
They have several manners of attachment as well. Like the Harris they can use the front swivel stud, and on some stocks this can present difficulty, ie pulling the stud out of the stock if it is just screwed into the forestock. Unlike Harris however they can be mounted with a spud set into the stock parralell to the barrel, which is the system I use on my bigger rifles, that way there is ZERO possibility of stock damage. They also come in 2 options for feet, rubber 1s like Harris and sandfeet like PH.
I have used their aluminum bipods for many years even on my 50s without any problems.
Joe I do not know what or where you heard of problems, I have 1 of their very first bipods, which is an exact replica of the PH and its 10 years old. Been on my F class rifle all that time, no problems. If you want to try some I can set you up with dealer pricing as I am a distributor
 
Thanks Rick.

One of the dealers in Edmonton was having the problems with them. Now that I think about it, I am pretty sure I did look at the unit and it was probably the alloy one. Looks like CRS! eek The particular sample I recall looking at was very sloppy and bulky and as I result I didn't look at them to seriously. Coupled with the retailer dissatisfaction and the failures they claimed to have experienced it was a slam dunk decision. STAY WITH THE HARRIS.

In short, I was not impressed with what I saw and for my use and my customers, the Harris fits the bill well. It is hillarious to see such vastly different thoughts and experiences. I will look into them again. Perhaps at the next show we see you at you'll have some for sale or I'll pick up a few from my supplier.

The Harris bipod does have swivel contol, just not a very precise control, especially with rifles in the 10lb class and up. The panning feature is nice, however, I have found that I generally don't need to pan with the rifle and this extra feature tends to add more weight and sloppiness to the whole rig. The Harris has ample rotational flex or give to cover my panning needs. Heck maybe thats a torture test I shouldn't subject the unit tooo ....eek again...

You never did mention what Harris stated when you experienced your problem. I take it you don't want to revisit the experience or the "oh what a feeling"

As far as the front forend stud system, I suspect on a properly designed stock, the stock would be stiff enough to handle the additional torque generated from the larger torque arm of the Versapod front spindle. The further out the bipod the greater the degree of flex and more stress in the system. The Harris and Shooters both keep the stress / torque on the stock about the same as on a regular bench tripod and in most average shooter cases they offer enough stability (front to back stability). If your running mile long heavy barrels you might want your bipod to be further forward.

I often remove the front stud from my forend when shooting from a bench tripod. The rifle generally rests in the stud area as opposed to further towards the forend tip or past it.... eek (on the barrel). Using the Versapod system creates a new and slightly different different support system. Pretty minor, but it does and it can influence where the point of impact will be.

I agree the springs can be noisey when plucked or banged and yes if your having a bad day and are a bit wreckless you might even pinch (sensistive and intensively moisture ladden skin) one of your fingers which could in turn create havoc with the wife or with guests at the high society dinner party......... but the Harris at this time gets my vote for 99% of the uses out there.

Rick, I believe that you've had excellent results with the Versapod. I guess that supports that they must be geared for you big gun guys!
 
I should mention there is another one which are probably worth investigating if you like the look of the versa pod.... damn CRS. I'll get the name.
Versapods range in the $80-85 range or so....

Brownells sells them as well if Rick is out of stock...

I'll dig up that other bipod maker.....I was looking into them.... but damn everyone is so busy it fell through the cracks....
 
Your right Harris has been an issue bipod for quite a while, my looking into it show's that the versa pod in the past few years has become the bipod of choice. As I have not owned a versa before I can not give an honest comparison other than to say it is the bipod I have requested for a new rifle. I have used Harris on all my other rifles with good results so cant knock the product other than the odd bite on the hand due to my stupidity. They are both excellent products and realy comes down to a personal choice. I will let ya all know which one I prefer after tying them both, but I am expecting to be picking the versa based on what I have read on them, but who knows.
 
"So I'm asking...would you keep the intolerant remarks to yourself, afterall aren't we all just having fun shooting?"

I said "... and that's fine". That IS tolerant!
I agree, with all the ranges getting closed on us (now St. Bruno next year) we are lucky just to shoot. However, I'd still be ashamed to claim prize money using a benchrest setup...
 
To answer Tibbettsistough's original question way back on page 1...the swivel bipod is better than the fixed bipod in that the legs do not have to be adjusted for level when you're in position. The swivel takes care of level. The recoil still causes the rifle/bipod to jump. If you're shooting off a hard surface place some soft material under the legs to help minimize the jump. Shooting off sandbags still causes jump also.



F-class is turning into ###-class and that's fine
Richard338, you denigrate F-class yet you're tolerant. That's quite a stretch!


I'd still be ashamed to claim prize money using a benchrest setup...
You should compete against us sometime. You might find the prize elusive!


Terry Perkins
 
Let me clarify. I like to compete at f-class matches using a bipod. Others who show up I place in one of 3 catagories.
A) Benchrest setup-I'm glad you came, keep the sport going etc, you could be a nice guy, but nothing you can do will impress me.

B) Shoot with a bipod- I like the way you think and choose to shoot.

C) Shoot with a bipod and do well- Now I'm impressed with your skill etc.

I don't expect anyone to care what I think or say. Last year at a match there were 20 f-class with only 3 using a bipod, I don't care. My goal is to win regardless using skill.
 
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Joe I do not know what or where you heard of problems,..........


Rick you still there....haven't heard back from you on this thread....
 
I have a Harris swivel, great bi-pod. I have a Versa Pod, steel with the Parker Hale style feet, great bi-pod, and I also have a real Parker Hale Bi-Pod, bar none the best of the bunch, but very expensive and very hard to find. I like them all, but for the cost, I would go with a steel Versa Pod, just my opinion.
 
Bipod or Versapod, I will say now that I have both and like them both very much. Like any other piece of equipment they need to be attached and practiced with from different positions under controlled and uncontrolled conditions, yada yada. They are not the be all or ideal platform under most hunting conditions and can make carrying uncomfortable. I use the bipod under specific controlled conditions and the versapod under field conditions for groundhogs (on private land) and coyotes. Another tool that I, personal preference only, find more useful for general hunting purposes is a colapsible monopod, that also doubles as a walking stick, several different types out there, from $15 to $40. Made of lightweight aluminum/titanium and a "V" at the top, breaks down under 15inches. All work well with practice, all have their uses under the right conditions. bearhunter
 
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