Need advice on how to interpret the results from my last range day.

You should be able to pretty much fall asleep behind your rifle. No strain whatsoever. Slowly open your eyes and everything should still be nicely in view with no shadow. Not that I would ever fall asleep behind my rifle ;)
 
In order for me to fall asleep behind my rifle I definitely would need a more comfortable cheek weld and a much quitter range. ;).. Tank you for all your inputs I do appreciated.
 
Shooting tight groups is definitely not an easy task, people overlook the hard work and lots of practice that actually must be put in, in order to see results. I for one am looking forward to all the practice I must put in to achieve that level of precision, and maybe in time I will be good enough to even enter some F class tournaments. Hope I am not stepping over some line here if I ask if any of you would be willing to spend some time and share their knowledge and range where I could practice prone and get helpful real time instructions and accelerate this road to precision. I live in Southwest Ontario please send me a PM if you are willing to shoot with a fellow Gun Nutz.
 
I found with my rifle that resting the floor plate on the front bag helped a lot. Now it's in a TAC21 chassis and it doesn't matter where the bag is if I'm using it and not a bipod.
 
Get youself a bunny ears rear bag stuffed with sand.It will make a difference,

My pet loads with my h/b .308 are: 168gr.A-Max or SMK or 167gr Scenar with 44gr.Varget and 155gr.A-Max with 45gr.Varget for the best groups.
 
If the rifle is jumping off target you are not behind the gun enough which is pretty common when shooting off a bench. Get prone and get thee behind the rifle.
 
Longshot said:
If the rifle is jumping off target you are not behind the gun enough which is pretty common when shooting off a bench. Get prone and get thee behind the rifle.
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This. I find that if my sight picture after recoil is off to one side I get horizontal stringing in my group. Body position is key, keep adjusting until it works, although sound coaching can save years of practice. If you are around Ottawa, pm Swissinn.
 
Longshot, when you say "you are not behind the gun enough", could you have a bit more in depth explanation on this? Shooting from the bench I find almost impossible to achieve consistency, at the last outing I was focusing more on cheek weld, sight alignment and trigger control. I noticed less jumping off the target but still not quit there.
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Talks has been initiated at my local gun club to open up some prone shooting lanes, hopefully something will come of it and perhaps I can cross off another excuse off my list.
emerson, I totally agree with you on coaching can save years of practice and also to avoid picking up some bad habits at the same time, so if anybody offers I will gladly will take the offer. In the mean time I rely on books, videos and your advices, so please keep sending them.
 
attila_koko said:
In the mean time I rely on books, videos and your advices, so please keep sending them.
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Nothing beats personal instruction but in the meantime practice this to work on your prone position. Rifles only and Hidetraining has some good instructional videos.

 
Thanks for the video J996, as I was watching your video I also found this video, called "shooting Bench Techniques" by Gunwerks https://youtu.be/_FhxVS5A3gk . This video is perfect for those of us who has stuck behind the bench. Also watching this video, made me see that I should record myself shooting, that way I can see what works and what doesn't.
 
Groups look like you're squeezing the rear bag to fine tune the shot. Think you should get a bunny ear bag and pack it firm. Avoid all physical inputs before firing. Shoot the rifle when it's in "neutral". Don't spend a lot of time looking through scope before shooting, optical memory might have you shifting POA. A little test; prepare to shoot then relax everything and close eyes for a couple seconds. If the POA has shifted you need to eliminate the cause. Use a pedestal with a stock fore end stop and use it. That will help you set the rear bag where your rifle will track in the bags. If you weren't so far away I would help you.
 
I think it's going to be tough to get behind the gun off the bench. Perhaps one of the benchrest fellows could explain any techniques they might have. Then again most are probably shooting calibers that don't have much in the way of recoil. For prone the best way to get lots of jump is to shoot with your body angled away from the bore line of the rifle. Think those little green plastic army men you had when you were a kid. If you draw a line from the muzzle through the buttstock and continuing on, that line will pass through your shoulder and then into airspace. For me when I'm prone(and I'm right handed) I want to have my left leg parallel to the axis of the bore. So my right leg is cocked up a bit to get my diaphragm a bit of space for breathing. My left leg is straight but as parallel to the bore as possible. This will shift the mass of your body behind the gun and help you with recoil management. That line you have drawn from the muzzle through the butt will now pass through your shoulder into the mass of your body. With all that mass behind the gun helping to absorb the recoil, you will have far less problem with the gun jumping off target every time you fire. ;)
 
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