Need advise on 1911
- Thread starter Jan1968
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A norc is the way to go I think for you ..Custom is endless the price is fair and its not like if it has slight hiccups from time to time your life is on the line .. If I can add one thing try one out if you can you might hate it
Welcome to the handgun addiction
Welcome to the handgun addiction
JeffTheBig
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Norinco 1911 would be your best way to go.$325 to $449. The newer ones are well built unlike a few years ago.
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IMO you need to ask how long your going to have this handgun. if you answer a year buy a norc if you anwser the rest of your life save your money and buy the one you really want. a friend of mine got into hanguns long before i and owns a norc that is collecting dust because it was the first 1911 he bought then soon after realized he wanted a better reliable gun. so out of the gate i didn't go cheap and i bought a high end kimber and love it and will never sell it. that being said a kimber or similar quality doesn't need to break the bank. try to find one used or go to a gun show best 2 ways to get a sweet deal. but the biggest thing to remember is the price of the gun is the cheapest part feeding it will be much more expensive no matter what price you paid for it so get the gun you can enjoy burning money thru
"...will shoot on a range, but not all the time..." You must join a club. Where you are, in Ontario, matters.
If you're new to handguns, a .22 would be better than a .45 to learn how to shoot. You wouldn't be the first to start with a .45 though. They are comfortable to shoot, even with factory ammo. Mind you, factory centre fire ammo, of any kind, gets expensive quickly.
"...a used "brand-name"?..." Norinco is a brand name. If I was buying one, it'd be their 'Sport' model. Because it comes with better sights and two mags. Marstar wants $349 for a brand new one. Black or two toned doesn't matter.
If you're new to handguns, a .22 would be better than a .45 to learn how to shoot. You wouldn't be the first to start with a .45 though. They are comfortable to shoot, even with factory ammo. Mind you, factory centre fire ammo, of any kind, gets expensive quickly.
"...a used "brand-name"?..." Norinco is a brand name. If I was buying one, it'd be their 'Sport' model. Because it comes with better sights and two mags. Marstar wants $349 for a brand new one. Black or two toned doesn't matter.
Buy a norc, if you don't like it, sell it for 50 bucks less. Worst case scenario think of it as a cheap rental fee. If you love it and want to get a trigger job, swap internals, do some work on the frame, or whatever down the road, you live in the same province as one of the finest smiths in Canada, Casey at Tac Ord.
22 is best option for a new shooter (got to learn to walk before you run) centre fire is costly. But if you must have a 9mm or 45 spend your money right the first time. The old saying buy right buy once ? STI sells really great guns for not much more than a Norc
and lots og good used ones out there Epps, Freedom Ventures, Armco and lotd more
and lots og good used ones out there Epps, Freedom Ventures, Armco and lotd more
Start off with a Quality affordable gun: STI Spartan. In 9mm or 45 your coice.
At $799 new, its a Bargin and has lots of custom features right out of the box.
If budget is under $400, a Nice new Nork Police model will be good.
My 2 cents. Oh I own STI, Norc and Colt,1911 and all work great. My main go to is Spartan 9mm by the way.
I mean your shooting PAPER in Canada, why the expensive .45acp? Is the paper you shoot really mean and a 9mm will not cut a hole in it?
At $799 new, its a Bargin and has lots of custom features right out of the box.
If budget is under $400, a Nice new Nork Police model will be good.
My 2 cents. Oh I own STI, Norc and Colt,1911 and all work great. My main go to is Spartan 9mm by the way.
I mean your shooting PAPER in Canada, why the expensive .45acp? Is the paper you shoot really mean and a 9mm will not cut a hole in it?
First of all, you need to seriously consider reloading if you want to shoot .45 for a reasonable cost. If not, you would be better off sticking to 9mm. I would suggest buying a supply of remanufactured ammo from Wolf or Combat Masters and saving the brass to tide you over until you are set up with a good progressive press.
A Norinco tuned by Armco or another good 1911 'smith is a good value as an entry level 1911. The end result will be better for a lower cost than the next least expensive choice out of the box. The STI Spartan are also a good value if you like all of the features they come with and the STI "look".
A Norinco tuned by Armco or another good 1911 'smith is a good value as an entry level 1911. The end result will be better for a lower cost than the next least expensive choice out of the box. The STI Spartan are also a good value if you like all of the features they come with and the STI "look".
+ 1 on the Spartan
For a first handgun I'm a big fan of a quality 22, however if you're determined to go bigger the STI Spartan is a great choice. Lots of Nork fans here, but I've always found them to be fairly unremarkable. It's hard to beat them for the price, but the increase in quality is worth a little extra money IMO.
For a first handgun I'm a big fan of a quality 22, however if you're determined to go bigger the STI Spartan is a great choice. Lots of Nork fans here, but I've always found them to be fairly unremarkable. It's hard to beat them for the price, but the increase in quality is worth a little extra money IMO.
If a nice .22 isn't your first gun it should be your second. They are a superb training aid for you and a good gun to get your kid's into shooting eventually. And who knows, with a .22 you may even get the wife involved to a point.
Nothing really to add on the 1911 front other than having shot this platform in .45, .40 and 9mm that I found 9mm to be a nice option. It obviously lacks the classical appeal of shooting the cartridge that John Moses Browning intended for the gun. But it's still a darn nice way to launch 9mm projectiles using a gun that fits the hands well.
Although if your ultimate goal is to get the "classic" gun in each caliber then I'd suggest that this would involve a 1911 for .45ACP, a CZ 75/85/SP01 or Browning Hi Power for 9mm and something for .22. The "classic" .22 is a bit more of a decision. There's the Ruger MkI/II/III, S&W Model 41, Browning Buckmark, Beretta 87 and any number of really nice older target pistols from a number of decent makers. And if you get a chance to shoot revolver and find you like them then a single action Colt replica and a S&W Model 19 would be two that you really can't live without.
Nothing really to add on the 1911 front other than having shot this platform in .45, .40 and 9mm that I found 9mm to be a nice option. It obviously lacks the classical appeal of shooting the cartridge that John Moses Browning intended for the gun. But it's still a darn nice way to launch 9mm projectiles using a gun that fits the hands well.
Although if your ultimate goal is to get the "classic" gun in each caliber then I'd suggest that this would involve a 1911 for .45ACP, a CZ 75/85/SP01 or Browning Hi Power for 9mm and something for .22. The "classic" .22 is a bit more of a decision. There's the Ruger MkI/II/III, S&W Model 41, Browning Buckmark, Beretta 87 and any number of really nice older target pistols from a number of decent makers. And if you get a chance to shoot revolver and find you like them then a single action Colt replica and a S&W Model 19 would be two that you really can't live without.
One of the main reasons that you will love shooting the 1911 is the great single-action trigger. If you do get a Norc, at least get the trigger job done so you can appreciate a comparison to a Glock or any other modern double-action pistol.
If you really have your heart set on a 1911, the STI/Marvel .22 conversion kit might be something worth considering. Gunnar at Armco lists them on his website and Freedom Ventures also carries them.
One way or another, every serious shooter should have at least one good .22 for inexpensive practice of marksmanship fundamentals.
One way or another, every serious shooter should have at least one good .22 for inexpensive practice of marksmanship fundamentals.
