Need alternative Powders & loads for 180gr, 303 British

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I've been using IMR 4320, but it's been a while since I've bought it, and have had zero luck lately finding it anywhere in stock, or even carried.

Neither of my manuals reference 180gr, so my load was actually developed from hearing from other shooters.

I don't have anything in my manual(s) for 180gr to go on and with no experience using any other powder for 303, I'd rather hear it from people more experienced than have a bad experience with an old Enfield.

If anyone has experience with other powders and 180gr projectiles, I'd very much appreciate the powder and charge you've used and liked.

Thanks,
 
You can use IMR or H 4895, IMR 4064, Reloder 15, Vihtavuori N140 or N540, Ramshot Big Game, Norma 202, Norma 203b.
Any of these will work great in your 303 with the 174/180 grain bullets. Dave.
 
Reloder 15 has consistently worked well for me, otherwise IMR 4064, 3031, 4895 and lots of others. Surely your manuals have 174 gr data, that's close enough (I doubt you'll be pushing to the max end of the scale anyway...)
 
303 Br data is "somewhat" specific to the bullet. Sierra, Hornady and Speer make bullets for the 303 Br. They vary slightly WRT dia and shape. For the most part, data is similar.

It would be nice if you would list the bullet, ie A Sierra 180 gr Pro-Hunter #2310 for example, and you would probably get some pet loads.

Personally I prefer shooting a 150 gr bullet, and my preferred powder is Varget. It is common and readily available and usually works OK. I seldom use top loads, usually settle on a "middle" load. The 303 Br also performs well with some of the ball powders. It's hard to make any recommendations not knowing your intended use, or any firearms details.

For example Hodgdon online data shows this for 150's "Hodgdon Varget .312" 2.995" 39.0 2,458 39,600 CUP 43.0 2,656 42,700 CUP" and I started with 41 gr and fooled a bit with seating depth to get a pretty accurate load. Speer bullets worked with this combo, Hornadys, not so much. I had a nice SMLE #4 Mk 1 and a Martini. Both had nice bores, tight chambers and were without any headspace issues. Case life was good. My primer was a WLR and my OAL was 2.89". Speer bullets are 311, so obviously the Hodgdon data didn't use a Speer or Sierra.

It is also hard to ignore IMR 3031, a fairly fast burning powder that doesn't seem to get funky at the top end.

I'l quote some interweb info "During the course of World War I, as with the production of the P-14 rifle, Britain turned to the United States to help with ammunition production. This call was answered by Dupont and their IMR 16 single based nitrocellulose powder, which was officially adopted for use in 1916. IMR 16 closely duplicated the performance of the cordite loading, but had the advantage of not burning as hot. As this powder offered the same ballistic characteristics as the cordite loaded round it kept the Mark VII classification, but with the addition of a "Z" (Mk VIIZ) to denote the propellant change. The nitrocellulose powder also offered the added benefits of not having to alter existing or future rifles sights changing bullet weights and because of its cooler burning, prolonged the normal service life of the Enfield barrel. After the war, this powder was offered for public consumption as IMR 3031. This development of the nitrocellulose powder marked the last significant change to the .303 round and is still the propellant of choice for today's commercial loadings."

I've used IMR 3031, it's OK, but using it for loading the 303 Br lacks a bit of imagination, seems boring.

IF I don't have the current data, I'll contact the manufacturer, fill out the form and usually they send me the data I need. Buying the manual sometimes seems extravagant for just one caliber. I usually buy every second or third update, ie I have Lyman 46 and 50 (paper) and a pdf of 48. I have Speer 9 and 12. For the most part not much changes, but only using old data is not recommended. Components do change.
 
IMR 3031 is definitely on the radar for 303 British loads, and is quite suitable in the Lee-Enfield rifles.
They are not designed for higher pressures, and moderate loadings with IMR 3031 will work just fine.

However, in stronger, front-locking actions. [P14, Ross] I have never been able to reach the velocity
potential of the 303 and 174/180 grain bullets with 3031. Case capacity of the 303 British is very close
to the same as the 308 Winchester, and in a strong, front locking action, similar velocities should be
attainable. And, indeed, they are.

My 1910 Ross, with a fresh barrel, easily reaches 2650 with the 180
grain Sierra Pro-Hunter, or 2685 with the Hornady 174 grain RNFB soft point.

My other 303 is an Epps, so not really a fair comparison, due to increased capacity, but suffice to say,
factory 30-06 speeds are attainable in the P14 action. I prefer W760 in the Epps, but 100V is showing
some real promise. I'll report later on this. Dave.
 
I’ve run.
3031
4895
4320
Varget
4064
BLc2

In the various .303’s I’ve had over the years.

Kind of settled to Varget these days, but that’s because I’ve started buying my powder in bulk a while back.
 
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