Need good loads

[Umattok]

i have a rem 700 26" barrel with a 1/12 twist in a .308 and a rem 700 20" tac with a 1/9 twist in a .223. what are good loads for these rifles? i've just been using factory ammo with these rifles and not like my groups, both group about 1 1/4 at 100 yards. l

 

[AWOL]

I had similar results with my groups. I couldn't solve it until I started hand loading. Now my Tikka T3 Lite .223 & my Rem 700 5R .308 achive .5"-.75" groups at 100 yards.

For .223, I use H322 powder at 22.5 gn with a Hornady V-MAX 55 gn bullet
For .308 I use Varget powder at 44.4 gn with a Sierra Match King HP 155 gn Palma

You will discover insanity if you keep trying to get this type of result with factory ammo...

 

[MadMarty]

Take no offense, but is it the rifle shooting poorly or the shooter. Also have you done any accurizing to your rifles or glass/pillar bedding, trigger etc?

All my .308's love Varget and IMR 4064
My .223 is going through OCW testing between three different bullets and five different powders.

 

[FLHTCUI]

Umattok, what are you trying to accomplish?
Are looking for a hunting performance for a given game animal or are you trying to fill the NBLon paper targets?
Game of choice and expectations are what is also needed for someone to offer advice.
Rob

 

[skypilot]

In my .223 1-9 twist bolt gun, Varget near max published for 69 gr SMK and 75 gr Hornady BTHP and .015" jump shoots well to 400 yds +

I would advise to work up carefully watching for any stop signs, but it shoots well in mine.

 

[Longshot]

One powder. Varget.
44.5 grains for a 175
24.5 grains for a 77mk.
Both shoot about 1/2 moa for me.

 

[Umattok]

For hunting game. Mostly caribou, musk-ox, and seals

 

[maynard]

For hunting game. Mostly caribou, musk-ox, and seals

Well by the looks of it, your target will be bigger than your groups. With factory rifle, factory barrel and factory ammo 1 1/4" group are not that bad.

 

[sunray]

"...Need good loads..." You have to work up the load for each rifle. No two will shoot the same ammo the same way, so a load that shoots well out of my rifle won't necessarily do so out of yours.
I'd suggest you work on one rifle at a time. Start with the powder used for accruracy load.

 

[rayisametalkid]

i have a similar rem .308, mine likes 42.0gr of varget topped with 186gr BTHP speer target match

 

[Umattok]

Took a long time to reply but found a load good during the summer.
44.1 varget with a 168 smk

Forgot to mention this was a 3 shot group at 100 yards with my 308

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[klink1983]

I had advice but didn't read the last page.... Nice group.

I have the best luck at the moment with 44gr and 168gr, mind you at that time I was using a garbage scale and a rifle stock which is known to effect accuracy.

 

[Breaker61]

44.5 gr.'s of Varget under 165 gr. BTSP in 308 win.