Need help choosing my shot gun for bear protection and some hunting

The O.P. used the term "shotty" in the Sporting Shotguns thread. He's fair game for any and all abuse he encounters here. That's the rule under Terms and Conditions. :)

And the Search function default is to look back only ONE WEEK. Go to ADVANCED SEARCH and change the date variable.
 
Just once I would like to see a report of how someone successfully defended themselves against a bear with a shotgun.
 
The O.P. used the term "shotty" in the Sporting Shotguns thread. He's fair game for any and all abuse he encounters here. That's the rule under Terms and Conditions. :)

And the Search function default is to look back only ONE WEEK. Go to ADVANCED SEARCH and change the date variable.

but if all the shotty shooters used the search we would miss all these neat bear defence threads:p
 
Just once I would like to see a report of how someone successfully defended themselves against a bear with a shotgun.

One would think that with all the experts there would be at least one or we would have a stickey?
 
Just once I would like to see a report of how someone successfully defended themselves against a bear with a shotgun.

I can give you a couple of instances where a shotgun saved the day. We were on our way to work and at the end of my street there was a trailer court. A fellow who lived there had just let his rotty out and a polar bear came out from under his steps, bounded up onto the deck trying to get the dog. The dog got inside, the bear tried follow, but got his slammed in the door. The homeowner who was pretty worked up by this time, had his goose gun loaded with birdshot at the door. Somehow he managed to hold the door tight on the bear’s neck, reach for his 28” pump and shot the bear in the face. The bear was rubber legged and stumbled about 50 yards away and dropped. The COs showed up a couple of minutes later and killed it. I'm glad he had shot in that gun, because we were right in his line of fire and this guy was way too wound up to worry about where a slug might go if it exited.

I like to walk my dog Shadow early in the morning, and one morning we headed down the back road that runs parallel to Hudson Bay. To our left was a spur line that goes to the tank farm and between the road and the tracks was a slew, which was frozen over at that time. I heard some cracker shells then say headlights coming down the tracks. I figured that bear was on the low ground between the road and the tracks. Not wanting to get run over by an excited bear that was in the process of being cracker-shelled and harassed with bright lights I opted to cross to the tracks as quickly as I could. Sure enough, halfway there we met the bear. Shadow, doesn't like cracker shells, so here I am, he's got the leash wrapped around my leg anchoring me in place, the bear is hissing at me like a cat and is almost close enough to touch with the gun barrel it I stretched out. He goes past me, I’ve got the gun on him, and he stops when he gets up on the road like he's thinking about coming back down. I hammered 3 Brenneks into the bank at his feet as fast as I could shoot; then he did the stiff legged, "I'll leave, but not because you scared me" thing. I walk up to the CO's truck, and they say, "Whoa, did you ever scare us!!??" I'll keep my comment to myself. The interesting thing about that little episode was that I didn't feel particularly rattled, but I slung the gun muzzle down across my back as is my habit, and when we got home, I took it off and I had a round in the chamber and hadn't put the safety on.

We got a call that a bear was roaming around a bunch of tourists, so I had made up my mind that I would kill hit, rather than try to scare it away and risk getting someone run over or mauled by a panicked bear. So shotgun at the ready I drive to the place and sure enough there's the bear. I don't know if bears are telepathic, but it was like he could read my mind, but as soon as I got on the scene he bolted ran head long into a chain link fence bounced off, then tried to hide under a wooden crate. I was laughing so hard I could have shot him if I wanted to. He got to live another day.
 
The O.P. used the term "shotty" in the Sporting Shotguns thread. He's fair game for any and all abuse he encounters here.
those are rules to live by!

I never could understand the reason for sayin "shotty"
it has 2 syllables the same as "shotgun"...unless a fella is trying to sound juvenile on purpose...

The bears have shotguns now? :confused: ;) :)
:D I was thinkin the same thing...
 
I never could understand the reason for sayin "shotty"
it has 2 syllables the same as "shotgun"...unless a fella is trying to sound juvenile on purpose...

I think the term "shotty" comes from an overly active Feminine side. That's the reason why they need to "accessorise" their guns so much. I wonder if they have overly large shoe collections too.
 
Our side does not need to throw rocks, at least when I last checked. We still have our guns. Those that use the term shotty are also the same that are quick to use the fudd label. I thought there was a separate forum for the black and green shotty and tackie guys?
 
Our side does not need to throw rocks, at least when I last checked. We still have our guns. Those that use the term shotty are also the same that are quick to use the fudd label. I thought there was a separate forum for the black and green shotty and tackie guys?

It is these divisions within our community that have been and will continue to be our downfall. There is no such thing as a good gun or a bad gun. There are good men and bad. Yet we continue to fall into this trap of believing we individually are the only ones with the correct point of view. The light at the end of the tunnel for the gun grabbers is to watch the the last few single shot Cooey rimfires disappear into the furnace. To them an expensive hand made double is as offensive as an M-4, so when the M-4s are all gone and the short 870s are history, whose guns will they come after? Their goal which has already been partially realized, is to wipe away each class of firearm as opportunity permits, and here we are feeding each other to them.
 
I think the term "shotty" comes from an overly active Feminine side. That's the reason why they need to "accessorise" their guns so much. I wonder if they have overly large shoe collections too.

I hardly think that Ruark and his like had an overly active feminine side!:eek:
the term "shotty" has been used for years by some , not by others.
still means the same - scattergun!:cheers:
Cat
 
I hardly think that Ruark and his like had an overly active feminine side!:eek:
the term "shotty" has been used for years by some , not by others.
still means the same - scattergun!:cheers:
Cat

Apparently humor doesn't work on some anymore. Thanks to all that PM'd me to the contrary.
 
There is no such thing as a good gun or a bad gun. There are good men and bad.

Correct on the first. How one thinks decides the second.

Some like the term shoty and some do not. It is hardly a case of being divisive, it is just a differing of opinion. It is a term attached to a thing.

On the other hand, the term fudd is a label attached to a person with the intent to insult.

If the differing of opinion and the odd insult can casuse all of our cooeys to get dumpted in the fire, then we were doomed when the internet made open disussion available.
 
It is these divisions within our community that have been and will continue to be our downfall. There is no such thing as a good gun or a bad gun. There are good men and bad. Yet we continue to fall into this trap of believing we individually are the only ones with the correct point of view. The light at the end of the tunnel for the gun grabbers is to watch the the last few single shot Cooey rimfires disappear into the furnace. To them an expensive hand made double is as offensive as an M-4, so when the M-4s are all gone and the short 870s are history, whose guns will they come after? Their goal which has already been partially realized, is to wipe away each class of firearm as opportunity permits, and here we are feeding each other to them.

Well said Boomer, united we stand, divided we fall.
 
I can give you a couple of instances where a shotgun saved the day. We were on our way to work and at the end of my street there was a trailer court. A fellow who lived there had just let his rotty out and a polar bear came out from under his steps, bounded up onto the deck trying to get the dog. The dog got inside, the bear tried follow, but got his slammed in the door. The homeowner who was pretty worked up by this time, had his goose gun loaded with birdshot at the door. Somehow he managed to hold the door tight on the bear’s neck, reach for his 28” pump and shot the bear in the face. The bear was rubber legged and stumbled about 50 yards away and dropped. The COs showed up a couple of minutes later and killed it. I'm glad he had shot in that gun, because we were right in his line of fire and this guy was way too wound up to worry about where a slug might go if it exited.

I like to walk my dog Shadow early in the morning, and one morning we headed down the back road that runs parallel to Hudson Bay. To our left was a spur line that goes to the tank farm and between the road and the tracks was a slew, which was frozen over at that time. I heard some cracker shells then say headlights coming down the tracks. I figured that bear was on the low ground between the road and the tracks. Not wanting to get run over by an excited bear that was in the process of being cracker-shelled and harassed with bright lights I opted to cross to the tracks as quickly as I could. Sure enough, halfway there we met the bear. Shadow, doesn't like cracker shells, so here I am, he's got the leash wrapped around my leg anchoring me in place, the bear is hissing at me like a cat and is almost close enough to touch with the gun barrel it I stretched out. He goes past me, I’ve got the gun on him, and he stops when he gets up on the road like he's thinking about coming back down. I hammered 3 Brenneks into the bank at his feet as fast as I could shoot; then he did the stiff legged, "I'll leave, but not because you scared me" thing. I walk up to the CO's truck, and they say, "Whoa, did you ever scare us!!??" I'll keep my comment to myself. The interesting thing about that little episode was that I didn't feel particularly rattled, but I slung the gun muzzle down across my back as is my habit, and when we got home, I took it off and I had a round in the chamber and hadn't put the safety on.

We got a call that a bear was roaming around a bunch of tourists, so I had made up my mind that I would kill hit, rather than try to scare it away and risk getting someone run over or mauled by a panicked bear. So shotgun at the ready I drive to the place and sure enough there's the bear. I don't know if bears are telepathic, but it was like he could read my mind, but as soon as I got on the scene he bolted ran head long into a chain link fence bounced off, then tried to hide under a wooden crate. I was laughing so hard I could have shot him if I wanted to. He got to live another day.

Good stories Boomer and I am glad that you did not have to kill any of your bears.:D

With all the bear threads that I have read and all of the advice that has been handed out, I would like to read an account from a CGN that actually had to kill an attacking bear using a shotgun.
 
On the other hand, the term fudd is a label attached to a person with the intent to insult.
You must learn the ways of The Fudd.

The Fudd is what gives a shotgunner his power. It's an energy field created by all living things.

Don't underestimate the power of the The Fudd.

May The Fudd be with you. :D
 
75% of the threads on this forum in the past 2 years have been about people scared of bears and stupid cut off garbage guns.

Then read the other 25% and skip the bear ones? Nobody is forcing you to read every thread. It's not like the title is misleading, if you can't skip a thread then you need help.
 
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