Need help finding the appropriate round.

Major Sights said:
Yes, using a scope 3x9. Where my stand is, surrounded by tall old hardwoods with very little twigs in the way just solid trees, probably 75-100y line of sight. Up there I would only shoot within the 75-80 yard, but every deer I have shot has been under 30y (Bow hunter) I have patience...


shoota- I do have hunting experience, and yes everyone, no matter who has a minute or so of buck fever but since I don't go out hunting with the intention of bringing home the biggest baddest deer in all the land I am able to calm myself much quicker. To me its just a beautiful steak waiting to be cooked. I have passed on may of deer before because the rifle I had been using was unfamiliar to me (apprentice hunter at the time borrowing dads, uncles, friends rifles) and didn't want to risk it.

USP- WMU 60 (North of Stony Lake) is a rifle zone. Not sure where you read that I am NOT a hunter... I am however a new PAL owner but been around guns almost... well turned 24 last week so 24 years... I have asked about using .223 here, my hunting buddies, and lots of local hunters of where I grew up... even got a story of how one guys dad was unable to buy food to put on the table back in the 50's would just sit in a brush pile with some crab apples in front and wait for the deer to come in and then pop them one in the head with a .22lr...

The majority of the people I talked (face to face not post to post) to were in favor of the .223 round WITH proper discipline in shooting, understanding of the rifle and its capabilities (no 300+yard shots for me :D ) and proper bullet. This is why I am asking about the proper bullet for the job.

If you would like me to be as ethical as possible (in your opinion) then help me choose the right round.
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Make life simpler for yourself. Buy something different. Why the lust for .223? Theres lots of other light shooting stuff that might be a better choice for you. I have a 6mm Remington that is a nice gun.

Can you elaborate on why you like the .223 so much?
 
Truck loads of game are taken across the north with .22 centerfires, but IMHO the correct choice of ammo is essential to success. Do not use match ammo. Choose the heaviest expanding bullet you can find factory loaded.

To get the most versatility out of your rifle, get into handloading as soon as possible, it need not be expensive or require an inordinate amount of room. A Workmate can be used as a loading bench, and Lee's little C press for less than $50 will certainly handle .223 brass. With the addition of a priming tool, a scale, and a Lyman loading manual, all of which can be acquired used, you're good to go for about $200. Then as your situation changes, you can add to your basic set up.
 
It's all about bullet selections these days, the technonolgy involved allows bullets to be used for various game at various velocities all with excellent results when proper selection is made.The bullets just have to be used within design parameters.

Many hunters wouldn't dream of using a .243 on moose , but with proper bullet selection that chambering will work just fine with a well placed shot.I would think it is a similar camparison using the .223 on deer.

I know many hunters that have used .243 on moose..223 for deer I cannot say as we have a caliber restriction here in Sask, but I am sure it will work for you.

Shot placement, shot placement, shot placement.

.223 in lungs = dead deer, .300 Win Magnum in the guts = long track job.
 
There is a calibre restriction here in Sask. .243 bullet diameter is as small as you can go. There is no power factor or length restriction so I could take my .32-20 (if it ever comes back from the gunsmith) and use it. Not something I would recommend.

If I were to use a .223 for deer though, I would just pick any old round off of the shelf, paper patch it to .448", fill my .45-2.4" case with 90 grains of Goex, compress, put an SPG lube wad under it then finger seat to the case and shoot the whole cartridge at the animal.

Do yourself and the deer a favour... get a .243 (at the very least) or something bigger. Never thought I'd ever say that. Or buy your meat at the grocery store where no animals are harmed.
 
I just don't understand why as a new gun hunter you would be so bent & bound on a 223 when there are so many better choices :cool:

Is it because you want to varmint with it, even so a 243 is so much better choice.
 
Devils advocate here. Is this gun going to mainly be for deer? Why not look at something like a .270 Winchester or WSM? You've got off the shelf bullet weights of 100-160 grains and you can double it up as a coyote rifle in S Ont if you want to. Also good for bear and with a well aimed shot, moose even.

If you're intent on using a .223 Federal makes 60 and 64 grain cartridges.
 
senior said:
I just don't understand why as a new gun hunter you would be so bent & bound on a 223 when there are so many better choices :cool:

Is it because you want to varmint with it, even so a 243 is so much better choice.
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I don't figure a .243 is much good for game over 100 pounds either, but I've given up trying to convince others. Better to get them to use the best bullets available and encourage them to learn to shoot well.
 
Major Sights said:
Anyone think of a round I could use? Rifle being used is a Remington 700 in .223 with a 1:9 twist.
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I already suggested one to you.
Your not going to go wrong with a Nosler partition if your particular rifle shoots good groups with it.

Norton said:
I suppose I would see how the 60gr Federal Premium Nosler partition vital-shock shot out of the rifle.
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I would understand your determination to use a .223 if that’s all you owned right now and could not afford another rifle, but the fact that you don’t even own a rifle right now and are bent and determined to buy and use a .223 for deer hunting is simply foolish in my opinion. The day will come when you will wish you had purchased something different.
 
have to agree to purchase a 223 for the purpose of deer hunting is not logical a bad decision to start!! only makes me wonder how many more bad decisions are to follow??? You said that you hunt with a bow when you archery hunt do you use a 100gram practice point? not likely !!! do the smart thing start your year by making a good decision get yourself into a certified deer calibre.. Giving up four steaks for a good clean kill is a damn good trade off in my books!!!
 
Was just given a 1916 Spanish Mauser in .308 yesterday. Does this make y'all happy now?
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There are naysayers on here who would probably still tell you that .308 is not enough. Heck, a guy I've hunted with before has told me he never had confidence in the .308 but he did in his .30-06. HA!

Lots of guys around here (New Brunswick) using the .223 and .22-250 for deer. My gunsmith didn't blink twice when I asked him for an appropriate .223 round (he sold me federal fusion....)
 
senior said:
Only when we read a thread about "Which bullet should I use for deer with a 308" :D
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well, that's pretty simple - the 165- does everything the 150 does , and doesn't buck quite as bad as the 180-ballistics are slightly better too- but if there's bigger fare than deer in the picture or dangerous game, my vote still goes to the 180
 
Boomer said:
I don't figure a .243 is much good for game over 100 pounds either, but I've given up trying to convince others. Better to get them to use the best bullets available and encourage them to learn to shoot well.
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Youve got to be kidding Boomer.... 243 is amazing on deer out to any respectable range you can handle. I cant believe i just read that.:confused:
 
7mmlefty said:
Youve got to be kidding Boomer.... 243 is amazing on deer out to any respectable range you can handle. I cant believe i just read that.:confused:
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No doubt. I know a fellow who dropped a moose with a big barnes something-or-other using a .243 in a pinch Good clean shot and a quick kill. 6mm'08 is a very underappreciated chambering.
 
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