Need help from the Enfield guru's

[303carbine]

I bought a No4MK1 today and can't find the manufacturer of it for the cfc file. It has No4MK1 stamped in small letters in the usual spot on the receiver side and it has the usual England stamp on the receiver too.The year 1942 has the letter B stamped over it on the wrist and the serial number is B O4XX. On the knox form part of the receiver is GR under a crown with the letter P under it. Right beside it is another crown with the letter P stamped inside of it. The wood is stamped with the letter P just above the No4MK1 stamp on the receiver. The battle sight is the milled version. I was going to take it apart but the leather "gasket" is still over the bolt head that holds the buttstock on. I have had lots of Enfields but this one is baffling me.... Thanks in advance

 

[BadgerDog]

I assume that is a "0" (zero) after the "B" and not an "O" (oh) as typed?

If so, BSA Guns is the only manufacturer listed in my reference material that starts with a "0" (zero) after the letter ie: "B".......

All other Enfield manufactuer's start with a number other then "0" (zero) after that.

BSA Guns 0001 -9999
A0001 - A9999
& so on thro' alphabet

ROF Maltby 10000 - 19999
A10000 - A19999
& so on thro' alphabet

ROF Faz 20000 - 29999
A20000 - A29999
& so on thro' alphabet
then AA, BA, BB etc

ROF Faz 2001A - 3000A
5001A - 6000A
7001A - 8000A

ROF Maltby 3001A - 4000A
8001A - 9000A Components not interchangeable

BSA Guns 4001A - 5000A
6001A - 7000A
9001A - 10000A
10001A - 20000A Components not interchangeable

Shirley 30000 - 39999
A30000 - A39999
& so on thro' alphabet
excluding I, J, O & W
also A40000 - A79999

ROF Faz PF12000 - PF 111999

ROF Faz
PF112000 - PF112099 Order short closed.
ROF Faz PF118000 - PF217999
ROF Faz PF218000 - PF219799
ROF Faz PF225948 - PF250947

Hope this helps ......

Regards,
Badger

 

[303carbine]

No4Mk1

You are correct, that it is a zero after the B .
Thanks a bunch, I'm sure glad this board has so many people who love their Enfield's.

 

[Calum]

Don't sweat it too much the CFC doesn't care too much about such details.
They will want the Make, Serial number, length or barrel, and type of action.

 

[BadgerDog]

The amount of FRT numbers for Lee Enfields is humungous ...

They will also need to know the manufacturer, not just the fact that it's an Enfield.

Just a few British examples:

ROF(F) FRT #634
ROF(M) FRT #643
BSA FRT #639

Under these, there are a lot of sub-categories for correct registration, depending upon barrel length and other factors. The Lee-Enfield BSA entry for just the No.4 Mk1 in the CFC database has no less then 12 dash (-1 to -12) sub categories.

Let's hope it shortly becomes academic and they do away with the long arms registry.

Regards,
Badger

 

[Monty]

Don't sweat it too much the CFC doesn't care too much about such details.
They will want the Make, Serial number, length or barrel, and type of action.

And name of manufacturer - sometimes.
I just had to have a Browning verified and now I don't own a Browning anymore - it's a Miroku!
edit: okay, what BadgerDog just said!

 

[303carbine]

Enfield

I just got an email from Charles Stratton and he said that from the serial number my rifle is an early BSA-Shirley No4MK1. Thats nice to know especially now that its already reg'd and Badgerdog had the answer first. Thanks, the more I know the more I need to know......