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A couple of weeks ago i bought a new Chrony . Last one died after 20 years . I reloaded 30-30 with 3031 and a 150 grain FN bullet . I loaded 15 rounds of 5 different powder charges and got the velocity results i expected . 3 rounds per charge . Nothing to do this weekend so i loaded 25 rounds of the same 5 powder charges . Everything was indentical to the last time as i'm far from new at this . 5 rounds per charge instead of 3 , just something to do . Went out this morning and set the Chrony up at the same distance and i shot to the same place . The sun was in the same place and the temp was the same .

Comparing todays results with the previous ones , every round in every string per powder charge for 5 strings of 5 power charges shot just about 200 fps faster . I changed nothing . I did this 2 years ago with my old Chrony and the results from my old Chrony very , very closely matched the results from the first time out with the new Chrony 2 weeks ago so it looks like the Chrony is just fine . Same gun .

2 weeks ago i had two rounds that didn't register a velocity number so i put the diffuser on and no problem after that or today . Sun was in the same place , low , so i don't know what the diffusers are helping with . I was on the same angle to the sun shooting in the same direction .

Nothing changed except the velocity this morning , by 200 fps . I've been using a Chrony for 20 years . I've been loading for 35 and when i say everything was the same , everything was the same and the new Chrony recorded the same velocity two weeks ago as the old Chrony did two years ago . No difference in brass nor primers nor powder charge nor OAL , nor bullet nor crimp nor powder .

Why did 25 rounds loaded the same as two weeks ago show a 200 fps velocity increase this morning ? Same rifle , a 336 Marlin . I don't get it . Lee dies , factory crimp .

This week i had a factory box of the cheap stuff with me . Federal 150's with the FN bullet . I sent 5 of them over the Chrony . They 5 ranged from 2,505 fps to 2,623 fps . Federal says they shoot 2,390 fps but i don't know what barrel length they use . Mine is 20 inches . I doubt they use less than a 20 inch barrel for testing then posting velocity in a 30-30 . All that tells us is that the results i got with the factory are faster than what Federal publishes .

Where did i get an extra 200 fps .
 
I can toss out a couple of theories.

200 fps is HUGE. I am inclined to dismiss that as being impossible, so something is amiss in the Chrony....

1) If you are using the "Shooting Chrony" brand, it is imperative that you shoot your rounds as low to the sensors as possible. Because these instruments have a hinge in the middle, it is possible that if the instrument is not fully open, because of the way is was screwed on etc. the diffusers sit closer to together and the sensors point closer together. It means that the distance between the sensor beams is shorter near the diffusers than it is near the sensor. This means that it takes less time for a bullet to pass between the sensor beams, and registers a much higher shot velocity.

Picture a pyramid... the distance between the two sides of a pyramid is shorter up top, than is is near the bottom. The side of that pyramid schematically resemble what happens when a chrony is not properly opened.

Shooting low across the sensors help hedge against poor senor alignment.

2)It is also possible that if the sensors were jarred, obstructed or dirty, you can have aberrent readings.

The diffusers provide a continuous background for the optical sensing of the bullet and should always be used.

I would say that unless the 200fps shots registered far higher on the target then the slower ones, your chrony is to blame.

Good luck,

Ian
 
I bought a new Chrony and I went cheap and got the lowest priced one. It wouldn't open all the way, with regularity. It has to be absolutly flat or I get goofy readings. I tried 3 different times to get readings of my best target load. I ended up averaging about 50 rounds to get a velocity that I could use in my calculating elevation for long range.
They don't make them like they use to. Chi chi chi china!!
 
Like the others said, failure to get the chrony PERFECTLY flat and open is the only reasonable expalnation. A thin flat bar on the bottom helps with this.
 
Here's a thought did you change open a new lot/batch of powder. Even though you may be using the same type of powder the lot# different it could affect the burn rate slightly giving you more or less velocity.
 
Once i left my chrony in my pickup full sunshine and very warm for 3 or 4 hours after that it had erratics reading, luckyly it was still on warranty and they did send me a new one... JP.
 
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