Need help Identifying 2 Milsurp Holsters

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Hi Guys,

A family friend needs some help in identifying a couple of holsters for an estate.

I looked over both and could not find any markings or stamps (aside from what is in the smaller one). I assume the larger holster is for an artillery luger, and the smaller one is for some kind of WWII era .32 auto, but I do not know much about these. The Luger holster has a cleaning rod in it. Any idea if this is original? Any help would be appreciated, including estimates of value.

What is interesting, is the smaller holster is marked Lt. Gen. P.J. Montague. From a quick search on google, I found this link: http://www.ordersofbattle.com/PersonData.aspx?PerX=414 , as well as several others. It would appear that Lt. Gen. Montague was a high ranking Canadian in Europe during WWII. I have no idea of the background of this holster, but there appears to be some interesting history behind it.

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Thanks!
 
Wow, the personal holster of a Canadian General ?

The long tipped holster is most certainly for the German Artillery Luger 1914 model.
 
If that's the artillery Luger holster and original, it's quite scarce and worth a very decent dollar.
The other one does look like a smaller calibre pistol. Could be for the Langenham or perhaps a WW2 era small framed pistol. Pretty great stuff there!
 
Funny enough I was just watching the documentary at the end of the Band of Brothers disc set and Maj. Winters held up a pistol and its accompanying holster that he received from a surrendering German officer. The pistol looked to be a Walther PP and the holster is very similar to the one that you have there.
 
Nabs said:
Wow, the personal holster of a Canadian General ?
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Be Careful, Without any proof, papers or documentation, anyone could have marked that postwar.

What if someone wrote Adolph Hitler in a PPK Holster in 1950 or 1970?

Does it mean it was his by looking at the Holster in 2011!

Fakery is alive and well. Caveat Emptor.
 
True, but whoever did it did it with a lot of care if it is a fake. I have also seen some really interesting things at gunshows...etc so who is to say it wasn't on the belt of a Canadian general at one point ?

It may help to identify what side arm would have fit with holster and to see if it is possible that Canadian officers carried it during WW2.
 
Small holster is a PP or 1934 Mauser. You can see this in "Military Holsters Of WWII" by Bender. Steel stud, german stitching and design, that holster looks original. Too bad no factory markings. I just sold a 1915 Essen marked holster that looked simular, so even the WWI small cal holsters look often the same. The Artillery, I have one dated and factory named. They usually have something stamped on them. All made in WWI, though Artillery Lugers were used by rear echelon Luftwaffe units till end of WWII.
Values.$ If that is indeed the General's trophy holster, written in India ink and not ball point pen, well could be worth a lot to someone out there. Holster alone(not including Gen's name) in that condition run around Est.$40-$75 range, Factory waffenampt codes, the bad boy eagle ect. would have doubled this Est. sometimes more.
Artillery, if rod is original, with surface worn strap(not repaired), surface cracked front, and no holes or thread missing put at Est$220-$250.It is only fair cond. If it were dated with factory name add a hundred, and in much better condition double or more the Est.
I have gone through hundreds of Mil holsters and have more still coming so my estimates are good.
 
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