Need help with AR enhancements.

conmaesta

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So I bought myself this nice little AR...Black Forge Tier 2...16.5 barrel...Brand new and I got it for a decent price under 6 bills...So I want to change a few things...Want to improve by adding a new Magpul Moe handguard...and remove the standard front sight and replace with a different gas block...And then put on the Magpul Buis front and rear sights..The Moe handguard is drop in and so I need some kind of gas block the simpler the better...My intention is just to have a decent backup iron sight setup with an optic such as the aimpoint or perhaps Bushnell red dot...My question though is all about the gas block...If I get the Moe by magpul what gas block do I need..And which should I get...I'm getting the Magpul sights the flip up front and rear.
I appreciate any help here...My first foray into accenting my semi auto....
 
I cannot recommend using the Magpul MBUS Front Sight with the Magpul MOE Handguard in any configuration.

The MOE handguard is designed primarily with a Front Sight Gas Block which you already currently have. You could replace the front sight gas block with a "railed" low profile gas block, but a railed low profile gas block can get very hot and cause the front plastic MBUS sight to melt.



I would only use metal folding sights on a railed front gas block.

If you are intent on the Front MBUS, then I would highly recommend some sort of front railed handguard system (either Picatinny, Keymod or M-LOK) - this would require you to remove your Front Sight Gas Block, your delta ring and barrel nut and replace it with a Low Profile Gas block and a proprietary barrel nut with your new handguard.

This also has the added benefit of free floating your barrel.
 
Honestly, I'd just keep the front sight gas block on there unless you plan on putting in a railed hand guard of some sort. As mentioned above, you can melt a polymer/composite/plastic sight on a railed gas block if you're shooting enough. The other issue you're going to have is finding a rail height railed gas block. What I mean by that, is a standard railed gas block is NOT the same height as the rail on the upper receiver. So your sights won't line up.

If you want a back-up set of sights for your electronic optic that you'll actually use, just buy extra batteries. This "back-up sight" craze on a range only rifle is really quite silly.
 
BooSSted said:
Honestly, I'd just keep the front sight gas block on there unless you plan on putting in a railed hand guard of some sort. As mentioned above, you can melt a polymer/composite/plastic sight on a railed gas block if you're shooting enough. The other issue you're going to have is finding a rail height railed gas block. What I mean by that, is a standard railed gas block is NOT the same height as the rail on the upper receiver. So your sights won't line up.

If you want a back-up set of sights for your electronic optic that you'll actually use, just buy extra batteries. This "back-up sight" craze on a range only rifle is really quite silly.
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^^^ this

If you want BUIS then buy a free float forend with a continuous upper rail the same height as the receiver rail. Don't bother with a quadrail forend either, civilian range rifles don't need all kinds of lights and lasers hanging off them and all that junk just makes it heavy and uncomfortable, seems silly to see all the guys with quadrails and they just cover them up with smooth covers (shows how useful they are).

I'd suggest something like a Troy Alpha or a Samson Evolution forend, they aren't overly expensive, they're nice and light, and use the factory standard barrel nut.
 
conmaesta said:
Hey gents thanks a lot for the feedback...Think I'll take BooSSted's advice and maybe stick with the existing gas block sight system...
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When you get sick of seeing your front sight through your red dot you can either go the cheap route and just chop off the front sight (make sure you stay above the gas system) or go the more expensive route and go free float with a flip up front sight.
There are also a couple companies that make a gas block with a built in flip up front sight if you want to go that route, they are expensive but they're a nice option.

I don't run any of my AR's with fixed front sights anymore as I hate my sight picture being cluttered up with a front sight post, co-witness is for mall ninjas in my opinion, just buy a quality optic and you don't need to worry about back up sights. Spend as much (or more) on your optic as you spent on your rifle and you will never have problems with it that a fresh battery can't resolve.
Also remember that these are range toys so you'll never be in a situation where having an optic "go down" will be a life threatening incident, just stop shooting and go change your battery or pull out a different toy until you get this one working again.
Keep your rifle light and simple and save your money for ammo and magazines and just shoot the heck out of it.

Have fun and post some pictures of it.
 
Well it looks like after a little more research that i can go with the Magpul Moe handguard and add an ATRS Pic gas block...Add some folding ATC front and rear sights and I'm good to go...The ATRS gas block Pic rail is made to be even with the pic upper receiver rail so the backup irons will be in sync...Then co witness and on my merry way...The sights aren't that expensive so if I do want to take em off well ok...As for the rest of the gizmos....forget about it lol...I want a versatile and light rifle...And yep I'll ensure I get the backup batteries...As it is just a range kit I go with you all on keeping it simple...
 
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