Need help with IPSC CZ mods

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I want to participate in Production IPSC with a CZ Shadow and was wondering if the following modifications are legal


CZ Recoil Spring Full Size 11 LB X 1
CZ 75/SP01/SA & Tactical Sports (TS) Stainless Steel Guide Rod
CZ Competition Hammer High Thin (Normal Comp Hammer)
CZ Hammer Spring 13 LB X 1
CZ 2075 / Rami Factory Firing Pin Spring
CZ Extended Firing Pin Shadow / TS / Pre B
CZ Short Reset Disconnector Pre-B Drop In

Thanks
 
Skip the guide rod. Keep using polymer ones. IMO an 11lb will be too soft for a load that is making minor power factor. I use 13 for IPSC and 10lb for PPC
 
schumy said:
I want to participate in Production IPSC with a CZ Shadow and was wondering if the following modifications are legal


CZ Recoil Spring Full Size 11 LB X 1
CZ 75/SP01/SA & Tactical Sports (TS) Stainless Steel Guide Rod
CZ Competition Hammer High Thin (Normal Comp Hammer)
CZ Hammer Spring 13 LB X 1
CZ 2075 / Rami Factory Firing Pin Spring
CZ Extended Firing Pin Shadow / TS / Pre B
CZ Short Reset Disconnector Pre-B Drop In

Thanks
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What no slim safeties? That's the first thing I usually do
 
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AHiltz said:
Skip the guide rod. Keep using polymer ones. IMO an 11lb will be too soft for a load that is making minor power factor. I use 13 for IPSC and 10lb for PPC
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The 2075 spring is supposed to counter the light strike issue that the 11lb spring might induce.

Why do you recommend keeping the polymer guide rod?
 
The recoil spring has nothing to do with the hammer and light strikes. I think it's too light too.

The polymer guide rod is easier to get in and out, and it provides some cushion. It doesn't add anything but a tiny amount of weight.
 
schumy said:
The 2075 spring is supposed to counter the light strike issue that the 11lb spring might induce.

Why do you recommend keeping the polymer guide rod?
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Going with too light of a spring will put unnecessary wear on the slide stop and slide. I guarantee you that an 11lb spring is too light for an IPSC load. Stick with the 13

Everything that I have read about the stainless rods has been negative when not used with the buffer pads. I used one without the pads and the rod's base got beaten to hell. The stainless rod is $25 and not sure how much the pads are, but the polymer rods are only $7 and require no pads. There is no noticeable difference between using the two, so why bother
 
Best IPSC mod for a shadow, is buy more ammo!

I thought about a trigger job and etc, but I decided to just shoot it to smooth things out. But that's just me. I also have a cdn edition and it has upgrades, but I see no difference between the two. The only real difference I see is that the cdn ed has a smaller fiber optic, so it 'could' be more precise. I shoot them alternating, and see no difference whatsoever.
 
Horse96 said:
Best IPSC mod for a shadow, is buy more ammo!

I thought about a trigger job and etc, but I decided to just shoot it to smooth things out. But that's just me. I also have a cdn edition and it has upgrades, but I see no difference between the two. The only real difference I see is that the cdn ed has a smaller fiber optic, so it 'could' be more precise. I shoot them alternating, and see no difference whatsoever.
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+1 Honest Advice

Bob
 
Guarantee how exactly? The vast majority of IPSC shooters shooting the Shadow run 11lb recoil springs and 13lb hammer springs. A number of us run 11lb hammer springs as well. Prior to the release of the shockbuffs we all did the same, with stainless guide rods as well.
As for the shockbuffs, it makes no difference which rod you are using, the buffs when installed will do their job.

AHiltz said:
Going with too light of a spring will put unnecessary wear on the slide stop and slide. I guarantee you that an 11lb spring is too light for an IPSC load. Stick with the 13

Everything that I have read about the stainless rods has been negative when not used with the buffer pads. I used one without the pads and the rod's base got beaten to hell. The stainless rod is $25 and not sure how much the pads are, but the polymer rods are only $7 and require no pads. There is no noticeable difference between using the two, so why bother
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Slavex said:
Guarantee how exactly? The vast majority of IPSC shooters shooting the Shadow run 11lb recoil springs and 13lb hammer springs. A number of us run 11lb hammer springs as well. Prior to the release of the shockbuffs we all did the same, with stainless guide rods as well.
As for the shockbuffs, it makes no difference which rod you are using, the buffs when installed will do their job.
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Yeah but usually not with factory ammo

Op: are you at a level where there's mods will actually make a difference? Or are you upgrading this just becouse the internet told you so? Just curious becouse if your just getting started maybe your focus shouldn't be on springs not trying to be a #### but you can't buy shooting skills.
 
skoal said:
Yeah but usually not with factory ammo

Op: are you at a level where there's mods will actually make a difference? Or are you upgrading this just becouse the internet told you so? Just curious becouse if your just getting started maybe your focus shouldn't be on springs not trying to be a #### but you can't buy shooting skills.
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That's a very good question. The short answer is, the internet told me to so.

The long answer is, I want to have a tool that can perform as best as it possibly can. Starting out with a quality tool, just like in any discipline, helps a beginner focus on acquiring the skill and makes it easier to ramp up faster, rather than fighting against the equipment and being frustrated. Some people will likely disagree with this philosophy, and I respect their decision to start off with whatever setup they want. In the end, some of these mods might actually make the gun shoot horribly or not at all, but I like experimenting, trying out different things, seeing what works for me and what doesn't. My post was about whether these mods are IPSC Production legal, if the post produces an interesting exchange then all the better for everyone on the forum, I'm always open to learning new things.
 
There is no harm in changing springs...anything that makes the trigger and recoil better is just going to help. It's not like springs have a huge opportunity cost....
 
Slavex said:
Guarantee how exactly? The vast majority of IPSC shooters shooting the Shadow run 11lb recoil springs and 13lb hammer springs. A number of us run 11lb hammer springs as well. Prior to the release of the shockbuffs we all did the same, with stainless guide rods as well.
As for the shockbuffs, it makes no difference which rod you are using, the buffs when installed will do their job.
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Slavex, what do you run on your shadow?
 
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