Need help with IPSC CZ mods

I run an 11lb recoil and an 11lb hammerspring (which I got in CZ at the factory in Uhersky Brod). I also run a shockbuff and do not run a reduced power firing pin spring (although the Shadowmates comes with a sort of reduced power firing pin spring, it's not like the ones people buy).
I find that with 124gr and 147gr ammo anything heavier than an 11lb recoil springs dives the gun as it returns to battery, which is the same reason most who shoot the 11lb use it
 
Slavex said:
I run an 11lb recoil and an 11lb hammerspring (which I got in CZ at the factory in Uhersky Brod). I also run a shockbuff and do not run a reduced power firing pin spring (although the Shadowmates comes with a sort of reduced power firing pin spring, it's not like the ones people buy).
I find that with 124gr and 147gr ammo anything heavier than an 11lb recoil springs dives the gun as it returns to battery, which is the same reason most who shoot the 11lb use it
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Where can you get the shockbuffs? Thanks again for the reply
 
Dlask sells the shockbuffs and the proper stainless steel guide rod (CZUB makes them stepped so they look and function like the plastic one). The shockbuffs are cheap.
 
He's sold out of the rods apparently, maybe the buffs too? the ad says the buffs are optional, so I don't think they come with it
 
Slavex said:
Guarantee how exactly? The vast majority of IPSC shooters shooting the Shadow run 11lb recoil springs and 13lb hammer springs. A number of us run 11lb hammer springs as well. Prior to the release of the shockbuffs we all did the same, with stainless guide rods as well.
As for the shockbuffs, it makes no difference which rod you are using, the buffs when installed will do their job.
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I was assuming from the wording of his post (new to IPSC shooter) that he is no where near your level. That means he's likely to be either using factory ammo or reloading with something like a CamPro 124 and Titegroup. Either of those and an 11lb recoil spring would spell trouble. That was the reasoning for my "guarantee"
 
The OP appears to be just starting to get into IPSC. If this is the case, I guarantee he would be better off putting his money into ammo, match fees and instruction from a decent shooting instructor rather than start modifying a pistol that is, out of the box, capable of out shooting most shooters. There is a whole lot of learning to do about shooting the sport that affects performance at the match. The CZ Shadow is without a doubt one of the finest pistols made. Mid to top shooters can take advantage of a micro faster slide or a shorter reset but I doubt most C Class shooters get any benefit from a slightly shorter reset or a slide that returns to battery slightly faster.

shumy put your money into ammo and if available some decent instruction and you will get more benefit than any of your proposed modifications.

Take Care

Bob
 
I run 124gr CamPros over 4.2grs of Tightgroup as my practice ammo, hundreds of thousands of rounds of it downrange, zero issues with my gun and an 11lb spring. Most of the guys I know in Europe are running 120+gr ammo with and without shockbuffs, as that's what the Shadow comes regulated for, and they all use 11lb springs. the whole CZUB Production team runs 11lb last time I asked. 115gr hot stuff, maybe, I'd run a 13lb, but you still will run into dipping sights with that as it throws the slide back faster.
And while Bob is 100% correct about best value of money being in learning to shoot, I don't think I could ever not tinker with my Shadows, regardless of how they showed up lol.
 
schumy said:
That's a very good question. The short answer is, the internet told me to so.

The long answer is, I want to have a tool that can perform as best as it possibly can. Starting out with a quality tool, just like in any discipline, helps a beginner focus on acquiring the skill and makes it easier to ramp up faster, rather than fighting against the equipment and being frustrated. Some people will likely disagree with this philosophy, and I respect their decision to start off with whatever setup they want. In the end, some of these mods might actually make the gun shoot horribly or not at all, but I like experimenting, trying out different things, seeing what works for me and what doesn't. My post was about whether these mods are IPSC Production legal, if the post produces an interesting exchange then all the better for everyone on the forum, I'm always open to learning new things.
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If I'm hearing you right, start with the best equipment so you know its not the equipment holding you back, or something like that? If so, then have no fear, the shadow, even stock, is great equipment. People also really like the tanfoglio's that are production legal (for production). You can get one that's really tricked out. Its your gun, do whatever makes you happy. Money spent on ammo is never wasted though, if you have good drills.
 
Schumy, give it to Jeremy at CTM, he'll do a stellar trigger job change the springs, install your competition hammer... Everything that is prod legal.
 
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