Need help !

Is a shim kit really needed for a new rifle?
Is it more common to wait for the the gas cylinder lock to loosen and then add a shim?

I'm considering purchasing a Norinco M305B and am now curious what parts these rifles require out of cosmoline. I assume the 2009 is not new and has some spacing problems?
 
Follow these steps:

#1 purchase rifle
#2 strip, clean, lube
Now the next step is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
















FOLLOW THIS STEP TO THE LETTER















FAILURE TO FOLLOW STEP #3 COULD CASE CROTCH INJURIES





















STEP #3




















SHOOT THE $%%#@ GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Who said anything about shooting it... I just want to take it apart, clean it and reassemble it as a hobby ;) Seriously though, what a beautiful rifle.

Do you guys keep kits for eventual repairs, I plan on keeping this rifle for a long time and like to plan ahead. If he needs to shim a year old rifle...

Sorry to hijack your thread LOL

Thanks!
 
I have a 2009 PolyTech, but I have not found a need for a shim kit.

Just shoot the fu*king thing, and IF there's a mechanical problem, source the appropriate part.

The only thing I suggest, once you get comfortable with your rifle, is find a better stock. Some will even tell you that the stock if fine as well. :D
 
Follow these steps:

#1 purchase rifle
#2 strip, clean, lube
Now the next step is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT

FOLLOW THIS STEP TO THE LETTER

FAILURE TO FOLLOW STEP #3 COULD CASE CROTCH INJURIES
STEP #3

SHOOT THE $%%#@ GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that made my evening LOL
m14 type rifles were not designed for the use of a buffer and most of us with a good understanding as to what is happening inside the rifle when a buffer is used.... know that they have no place in our rifles.

shim kits.....
first off, shoot your rifle after a full cleaning and degreasing
grease your trigger, oprod tab, roller pocket and receiver's oprod track
grease the back of the bolt lugs only, reassemble.
perform the trigger safety test by cocking rifle, pulling trigger and holding it , do not let it off. with your free hand cyle the oprod by pulling back and letting it fly home. release the trigger and pull it.... if the trigger does not "fire" ..... you have issues and report back to us.
if the trigger "fires" yer in business and off to the range.
"if your rifle needs it" accuracy upgrades are as follows
NM oprod spring guide rod
and possibly shim the gas assembly.
test this by removing the gas plug and check to see how much rotation past bottom dead center (6o'clock) the gas lock has. If it hand tightens snuggley at 6:00 gravy, if it goes way past to 9 oclock or more..... a shim kit can be of benefit. flash hider must be removed, most are welded on you might be lucky and have a non welded version.
shim pack can be purchased at marstar.
I no longer use shim kits as they are maleable and wear out fast (in my rifles anyways) and prefer to precision peen the gas band shoulder of the barrel. I can't really walk you through that procedure so shims will suffice.

my advice, shoot your rifle with a few different types/loads of ammo between 147gr to 174 gr(maximum tolerance for this rifle's design is 174gr), find an ammo your rifle prefers and then look at possible upgrades that are proven to help shrink groups in these rifles.
 
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Thanks doc,
I've already changed the oprod spring guide for a Rauch's one, i did the test for the gaz lock and it stop right at 12 o'clock...:bangHead:....So the shim kit might be necessary...My flash hider is weld... And i'm planning to take it off in a near futur...


And where can i find some good flash hidder/ Muzzle brake ?

Thanks

RB686
 
Just listen to M14 doctor... Won't steer you wrong.

So far my 2009 Poly has needed the gas assembly tightened up (rattled a bit) and shimmed (mine was at 11 O'clock, shimmed to start tightening at 4:30 approx). No other mandatory fixes. Bolt lugs are amazingly seating perfectly and the barrel is indexed properly!

Need op rod spring guide... will get one ASAP.
 
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