Need ID on a 7x57 , more photos.

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]No markings on this rifle aside from a 4 digit serial number , that is it!!!

Chambered in 7 x 57.

What can you tell me about it and what is it worth??

 
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Looks like a sportered military mauser 1895 or 1896? Any Chilean markings on it? If the left receiver rail isn't marked Lugwig Loewe or DWM it is probably Spanish. Value maybe $350 with scope. My 2 cents.
 
That is a gun produced in the BSA factory for the Tuttledge Firearm company... it is their early model 17... it was manufactured in only four calibers, 7X57 being the rarest with only 187 made, although there are rumors that an additional 10, Model 17 7X57's were made for the Sultan of Brunei after he admired the rifle while on safari with Marius Tuttledge, in Botswana in 1954. If you remove the action from the stock there should be a a stamping that looks like a bluebird in a circle... this is the Tuttledge family crest and was stamped on all of their firearms prior to Model number stampings... I am curious if the caliber (7X57) is stamped on the left, right or top of the barrel at the chamber???
 
I have a very similar gun, made on a Mauser 95 action. Mine doesn't have any pedigree, but is well made none the less. It sports a Bishop stock, and a medium heavy barrel. It shoots very well. I cant speculate on the value of the subject rifle - mines worth about 300$.
 
No sir, zero markings indicating chambering.

That is why I am so stuck.

I can take it apart and look deeper into it for sure.I am just not a vintage firearm kinda guy.


hoytcanon said:
That is a gun produced in the BSA factory for the Tuttledge Firearm company... it is their early model 17... it was manufactured in only four calibers, 7X57 being the rarest with only 187 made, although there are rumors that an additional 10, Model 17 7X57's were made for the Sultan of Brunei after he admired the rifle while on safari with Marius Tuttledge, in Botswana in 1954. If you remove the action from the stock there should be a a stamping that looks like a bluebird in a circle... this is the Tuttledge family crest and was stamped on all of their firearms prior to Model number stampings... I am curious if the caliber (7X57) is stamped on the left, right or top of the barrel at the chamber???
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hoytcanon said:
That is a gun produced in the BSA factory for the Tuttledge Firearm company... it is their early model 17... it was manufactured in only four calibers, 7X57 being the rarest with only 187 made, although there are rumors that an additional 10, Model 17 7X57's were made for the Sultan of Brunei after he admired the rifle while on safari with Marius Tuttledge, in Botswana in 1954. If you remove the action from the stock there should be a a stamping that looks like a bluebird in a circle... this is the Tuttledge family crest and was stamped on all of their firearms prior to Model number stampings... I am curious if the caliber (7X57) is stamped on the left, right or top of the barrel at the chamber???
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^lol
 
There is a stamp underneath , not exactly as you describe , I will get a photo tonight.

hoytcanon said:
That is a gun produced in the BSA factory for the Tuttledge Firearm company... it is their early model 17... it was manufactured in only four calibers, 7X57 being the rarest with only 187 made, although there are rumors that an additional 10, Model 17 7X57's were made for the Sultan of Brunei after he admired the rifle while on safari with Marius Tuttledge, in Botswana in 1954. If you remove the action from the stock there should be a a stamping that looks like a bluebird in a circle... this is the Tuttledge family crest and was stamped on all of their firearms prior to Model number stampings... I am curious if the caliber (7X57) is stamped on the left, right or top of the barrel at the chamber???
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Somebody's project rifle on an old Mauser action? The Whelen I recently bought is similarly devoid of markings and built on a very modified P17 action. Has 35WH hand stamped on the barrel right next to the receiver and one proof mark on the underside of the bolt handle. All the military markings, proofs and manufacturer information was ground off before bluing. I paid right around $400 for that one with an old 4x scope on top, but it has a little more elaborate wood, zero scratches and 100% of the bluing intact.
 
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