Need info on how to ship a Handgun through Canada Post Please

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Hi
I have always been told that when you ship a handgun through the post office it is supposed to go Regular mail. Is this correct and if so can someone send me the link to this?

Thanks any help on this matter would be much appreciated.

Thanks Graydog
 
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Canada:

Please contact the Canadian Firearms Centre at cfc-cafc.gc.ca or by calling 1-800-731-4000 to determine whether it is permissible to ship your firearms.

When it is determined permissible to ship firearms, they must be shipped as follows:

Customer Type
Service To Be Used
Non-contract customer
Regular Parcel with Signature option.
Contract customer
Expedited Parcel with the Proof of Age (18 or 19) option using EST. Visit Section 4.3.2 Mail addressed to children of Policies for an age of majority by province or territory listing.
There cannot be any ammunition in the firearm or in the package. Bullets, cartridges and other ammunition are dangerous goods and cannot be mailed. These items fall under Class 1 (Explosives) of the Canadian Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act and Regulations.

Customers who wish to ship firearms must:

unload the firearms
attach a secure locking device to the firearms
lock the firearms in a sturdy, non-transparent container, and
remove the bolt or bolt carrier from any automatic firearms (if removable).
Firearms cannot be shipped via air and cannot have any markings on the outside of the packaging. The customer is solely responsible for meeting all Canadian Firearms Centre regulations.

NOTE:
For more packaging tips, refer to Section 3.2.1 Suggestions for how to package and wrap items of ABCs of Mailing.
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Its the only way to legally transport the gun to the post office and could put the recipient at risk if they have to bring the gun back home from the post office.

Site sponsors and others who get pickup service don't worry about it.

FF
 
Jim Guns said:
Do most people actually send with a trigger lock attached?
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In my experience most don't but it is required by law and postal regs. A locked case is also required. Many seem to use plastic zip ties that have to be cut off....... kinda a grey area as to whether or not that would satisfy the requirements.
 
Jim Guns said:
Do most people actually send with a trigger lock attached?
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I do it all the time, and add a small lock to the outside. If someone really wanted to break into the package and take the trigger lock off, they no doubt could.

Maybe these are stupid rules, but if there is a problem and the item gets lost or something, I don't want to be the one to test the rules for the minimal additional effort it takes.

The reality is that it is very easy to ship a firearm in Canada, and I notice many 'non-gun' people are shocked when they find that out. If something was to go wrong during shipping and become public, I could see that leading to much more strenuous requirements. Canada Post can choose to change their policies at any time, or the Feds could introduce new regs.

The problem is that the shipping requirements are not that clear in the existing law, regs and guidelines so many are not aware if they are not following the rules. I've even gotten mixed advice from CFOs.


Just to add, I'm told venders get around these requirements because Canada post typically picks up directly from their business. They are never transporting the item themselves.
 
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Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the storage rules for safety (vs theft). As everyone states, if a thief wanted to get into a properly locked case/safe and trigger locked gun they could; however, a child or person accessing the gun unauthorized would be prevented (inadvertently and without tools). If this is the spirit of the regulation/law, I would hope that heavy grade zip ties would suffice as both a case lock and trigger lock - this is how police display confiscated firearms. I would also note that this goes beyond how several vendors ship the firearm. BUT with all that said, to prevent any headache, ship with the trigger/cable lock and locked case.
 
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jg007 said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't the storage rules for safety (vs theft). As everyone states, if a thief wanted to get into a properly locked case/safe and trigger locked gun they could; however, a child or person accessing the gun unauthorized would be prevented (inadvertently and without tools). If this is the spirit of the regulation/law, I would hope that heavy grade zip ties would suffice as both a case lock and trigger lock - this is how police display confiscated firearms. I would also note that this goes beyond how several vendors ship the firearm. BUT with all that said, to prevent any headache, ship with the trigger/cable lock and locked case.
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That is my general understanding as well. But again, I don't find it that clear in the law, regs and guidelines and I do not believe there is jurisprudence on the issue either (could be wrong on this). I suspect ties for shipping would be fine, but cheap screw in trigger locks and combo locks remove doubt.
 
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Be careful when using the solutions for small business discount card. I've used this for a year, it gives you 5% off and free $100 insurance. I always ship regular post.

Today I shipped off a pistol and a new girl did up the shipment. When I get to my truck to text the tracking number I realize she has sent it express post aka air.

I spent a half hour at her desk while she tried to refund my money and send it regular post. Finally it was sent properly. The woman who is usually there was off. She always uses my small business card, she shows me the regular post rate and then what regular costs with my big 5% discount. It usually takes 5-7 days from Nova Scotia to Ontario and up to 9 days out west.

Make sure it doesn't say express or you could lose your firearm.
 
I don't have a link but I believe going through packaging at the airport it will show up on the x-ray as a pistol. Since the pistol is not declared on the passenger manifest it will be removed from the luggage. Now you are dealing with the airport, and police who were called to come and get it. I doubt the airport would care who the police were or where the pistol went.
Go ground and no x-ray. Also, always get a 'signature required' to pick up the pistol at the post office destination, that way only the intended person will be able to get at the pistol.
Why not put a lock on the trigger? Cheap insurance and peace of mind for you if anything goes wrong. What does it cost? $15.00? The buyer can pay for it or don't sell it to them.
 
FyreFighter said:
Its the only way to legally transport the gun to the post office and could put the recipient at risk if they have to bring the gun back home from the post office.

Site sponsors and others who get pickup service don't worry about it.

FF
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They dont worry about it because legally they are not required too. There is more than one set of laws.

Shawn
 
Do tell how the Canada Post Act and regs don't apply to businesses when they specifically indicate businesses ship firearms via expedited NOT AIR service.

FF
shawn said:
They dont worry about it because legally they are not required too. There is more than one set of laws.

Shawn
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