Need Mannlicher Schoenauer model 1903 and 1961 MC info?

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I have located an Man Sch... 1903 and a 1961 mc fullstock that I could use some help coming up with a fair price between the buyer and I. I do not have pictures as they are not in my possesion( I know this helps out greatly with coming up with a price),but he states they are both in good condition. I am only looking for ballpark figures as to what they are selling for these days...approx value.
#1 is the model 1961 with the full stock, it is in.358 cal The back of the receiver has been factory drilled and tapped for the origional redfield mounts...but the front has not been drilled. I believe this puts as one of the first 1961 mc models produced,as I have read that later model 61 had the front drilled as well.

#2 is a model 1903 civilian with a checkered sporter stock. It is in 6.5 x 54 cal It has a pop up peep sight in the tang,cleaning rods in the butt plate, and is a take down version.Also in the twist off pistol grip cap there are spare aperatures for the peep. Looks like a pretty cool set up!

Any help would be much appreciated.

I have the rifles in my possesion and they are both in nice shape. Thanks to all for your help! When I get some time I will post some pictures for you to enjoy.
Thanks,
Dave
 
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Dave:
Is it possible that the 61MC rear is drilled for a sight and not for a scope mount? 358 is not a common chambering in the MS. My guesstimate for a value, providing it is in "good" condition, would be about $1200. They seem to be pricier in the U.S.
As for the takedown 03, that one's a winner by any standard. Provided the condition is "good" as well, between $1200 and $1600. "Good" is no cracks, at least 70% bluing, shootable bore, no extra holes.
 
I'm thinking along the same lines... $1200 for the 1961 and $1500 for the 1903, assuming no extra holes or alterations and they're not all beat to rat-####e.

I wouldn't consider either one of them antiques btw.
 
Gunrunner and 9.3 have already posted what I'd also estimate their value is. They are both very nice rifles in excellent chamberings. I owned a nice 1903 once, let it go too cheap.
 
I am no expert but I have the good fortune to own a 1903 MS. I notice that Tradex has several Model 1950MS in 30-06 on their site for 1200 to 1800. These are the rifle version, not the full stock carbine.
The 1903 takedown you mention would be a real gem. If you can get them for the prices that gunrunner100 mentioned, grab them both.
good luck
 
I actually think the .358 is worth quite a bit more than the $1200 suggested - as pointed out it is a fairly rare chambering. While the M1903 T/D is nice, I MUCH prefer the carbine, however the cleaning rods and extra sight still being there certainly adds to the value. In very nice shape I'd say I agree with the $1500 or so range.
 
Many of the pre 50's MS 6.5 have oversized bores .266-.268 so Hornady's new 160gr Carcano bullets would be best.Harold
 
1903 in good condition, original 17.7 inch bbl, take down with no holes in action, double trigger??, finer shotgun type trigger guard or chunky military looking US import stye? good checkering, original butt plate etc. - 1500-1600

358 - as described - $1400 - does it have the metal tang safety or plastic - metal is abit more $$, double trigger? or double converted to single (subtract $200)


My old 6.5s love 160 round nose and TSX 130 flat base - even tho they are over size bores. The 140s and 130s etc - not so much. They tend not to like the boat tails either.
I tried the Carcano bullets - not so good results
 
farshot - The .358 is quite a rare bird - not that Mannlicher-Schoenauers in general are super common. Tradex recently sold a couple of M-S carbines in .30-06 (the most common chambering) and the ones in good shape went for $1600 and $1800 iirc. I thought those prices were high for the .30-06 chambered versions. On the other hand there don't seem to be any takers (not surprisingly) for the one in EE at an incredible $2600.

Also my M1903 would not feed the 160gr Hornady RN reliably. The 120gr Nosler Ballistic tip worked well.
 
1899 -I dont disagree - the 358 is relatively rare, and I thought it was a half stock..... but it is (merely LOL) an MC tho, and not that old, so maybe 1500-1600.

Pictures would help, but they are worth what someone would pay.
 
Thank you to all for your input. I have them now in my possesion and they both in really nice shape. I may contact a few people who responded to my thread when I get closer to reloading for them. I would post some pictures but I do not have the know how or time to do it right now...I will figure it out in the next few months and post some for you to enjoy.
Thanks again.
Dave
 
Just for info purposes there were five 1903 pieces in a recent Alberta auction house and they brought between 750- and 850- each and they were all pretty much the same 6.5x54S . Nice pieces at wholesale prices.
 
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