Neighbor's dog is harrassing wildlife

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I don't know where to ask for advice, hopefully this isn't the wrong forum.

Long story short:

Over the last 2 years, I caught the neighbor's dog (German Sheppard) harassing deers, a moose, raccoons, various birds and he treed a bear. He also killed a fox last Friday and that's the straw that broke the camel's back. The moose and bear were on my land, other animals were on his land.

I warned the owner a few times but he doesn't seem to care "as long as he's not attacking humans".

Is there any law against that? If YOUR dog is harassing wildlife, shouldn't YOU be responsible? His dog is clearly doing what a man CAN'T do.

I don't want to end up to "accidentally" shoot his dog, but something must be done.

I don't feel like calling the police over that, but if there is no other option, I will.
 
My 1st impression over the killing of a fox is...:rolleyes:

It should not! however be allowed to chase moose-deer out of season.
I'd call the MNR & report it every time & insist they do something!
 
senior said:
My 1st impression over the killing of a fox is...:rolleyes:
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Well I don't care that much about the fox, it's just that I see the dog harassing wildlife so often that I can only imagine what he's doing when I'm not seeing him.


It should not! however be allowed to chase moose-deer out of season.
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I don't think the dog will ever be able to make the difference between these and the others.


Will call natural resources later today to hear what they have to say.
 
Triple "S " Animal Control is somewhat popular in these parts for dealing with problem animals ( which for domestic pets, invariably relates back to problem owners ) ...

Triple "S" .... def: Shoot, Shovel & Shut-up ! (about it)

Problem solved.
 
from what i understand the dog can be shot if it harrassing wildlife out of season so call the MNR about it
 
Get it on camera (digital movie) and send / contact MNR,and city or township office

Dog running loose chasing/ killing wildlife should get some attention and a mad neighbor (mad at you)
 
Triple "S" is one solution, discretion can be augmented with a 20 inch or longer barrelled .357 rifle & using .38 Special lead factory loads. In some cases the Aquila SSS, if one can scrounge some, in a .22 LR carbine/rifle that "likes" them. Close range only.
Edit: I once owned an old English rook rifle, in some odd calibre .360 #5 Rook, or something like that. Dimensionally it was very close to 38 Long Colt. I had it rechambered to .38 Spceial. Using 2.7 grains of Bullseye powder, 148 gain HBFWC lead, it was more of a 'splat' than a bang out of a long rifle barrel. I swear it was quieter than most .22s and air rifles. Very lethal & accurate at 25 yards or so on game.
Silly me sold it, because I made the mistake of comparing it to an accurate .22 rimfire.
 
What province are you in. Some of our legal beagles here will be happy to look up the applicable law. Take the video, show it to the neighbour, demand he tie the dog up or otherwise confine it to his property, if it happens again send to authorities.
 
Its not the dogs fault, it's the stupid owner. I think killing someones pet is a last resort, and most likely illegal unless it's a feral dog. Call the MNR and put it on them
 
Years back my uncle saw a farm neighbors dog in a corral barking at a cow with a new calf. He went to the house got his trusty Lee Enfield walked over and the dog made a break for it. He got him 1st shot inside of 100 yards. Very cool shot to see when you're just a kid! 2 hours later the neighbor stops by and asks if we saw his dog? My uncle points to the field. The neighbor caught on instantly. He asked why did you kill him? My uncle said "he was stressing that cow and her calf." The neighbor said "how would you like it if I shot your dog?" Uncle said "if my dog shows up on your land kill the son-of-a-##### because if he can't stay home he's no good to me." The guy left. That's country living in a nutshell where I grew up.
 
sherlockbonez said:
I thought dogs can only be shot for harassing livestock, not wildlife.
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I think you are right on that one, and only if you are the owner of the livestock, can you shoot them. Ordinary people can not shoot someones dog for harrassing game.
Actually, the common sense thing seems to be to first contact the owner of the dog and tell the owner what you saw the dog do. Depending on the attitude of the owner, you can then decide whether or not, to call the COs.
A CO would first talk to the owner, in any case.
 
^ I agree. But what happens when a cougar, wolf or coyote harasses a deer out of season? What difference is there, really, from a dog?
 
i know that in alberta it's illegal to allow your animals to chase wildlife except cougars and a few exceptions

i shot a couple that had packed up and were chasing deer...
 
promac said:
^ I agree. But what happens when a cougar, wolf or coyote harasses a deer out of season? What difference is there, really, from a dog?
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I believe they are predators, and don't follow our rules for hunting seasons. The difference is this is a domesticated pet, and CO's, police, are the only ones that are allowed to shoot a dog for harassing wildlife
 
promac said:
^ I agree. But what happens when a cougar, wolf or coyote harasses a deer out of season? What difference is there, really, from a dog?
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Coyotes, wolves and cougars are also wild animals that eat deer and other wildlife. They don't chase to harass, they chase to kill and eat. Domesticated dogs mainly chase out of their prey/predator instincts but wouldn't know what to do if the deer stopped and faced them. The killing of the fox is different because being in the canine genus like the dog, the German Shepherd will kill it out of a territorial instinct like wolves do.

It's a tough situation but always start with talking with the dog's owner and try to help them find a solution. Our neighbors on the next acreage over have a little miniture pincher. He runs free. When I walked one of my giants past there he came running out. The mom came to save him from my giant but my dogs are always on leash when they leave the yard. I had a talk about how close her dog comes to getting hit because he chases cars. I suggested she get a underground electric perimeter and collar for him. She was really receptive to my calm composure (inside I wanted to punt that yappy mutt over the power lines for 3 points).
 
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