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Using this thread as a place to (sporadically) document my 180c build and post pictures of the gun.

I think we can all agree that in its stock form the 180 is pretty hard on the eyes. The short rail and long barrel combo and the big wad of metal on the lower behind the grip looks pretty wack.

While I was waiting on parts to arrive I threw a magpul RVG grip and bushnell red dot on the gun:

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This set up sucked because with a c clamp grip your hand is right over the gas block and gets dusted by black soot every time you shoot.

Parts came in the mail and this was the initial result:

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Aliexpress 15'' m-lok rail
Aliexpress hand stop
Aliexpress 4'' rail scales
Sig Sauer alpha1 30mm high rise mount
Burris RT6
Ferro concepts slingster in multicam
BCM m-lok qd quick disconnect sling mount
Mil-spec trigger spring

Future plans for the gun is a light, new muzzle brake and paint job. Eventually I'd like to put some sort of skeletonized stock on it like an MPX stock and get some straight 20rnd metal mags
 
uAJollyRogering said:
Kodiak now makes 15 and 18 handguards that fit the oem nut and have a cut out at the gas block. I have thr 15 on mine and i think it looks slick. Link to a pic below, don't want to derail this guy's thread posting pics

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Nice looking setup! What grip is that? And looks like you put a different trigger in yours.

I got lucky that the rail I ordered was able to slide snuggly over the factory 180 barrel nut. Not having access to the gas block kinda sucks but in your experience have you had to adjust it?
 
Here's an update as of today.

Its been a ages since I shot last thanks to being super busy with work. Since the last update I switched out the birdcage muzzle brake with a Surefire Socom muzzle device.

A buddy and I went to the range with the plan of running some drills and working on movement and shooting. Right out the gate the gun was giving me trouble. It would shoot one round, cycle the bolt and eject the case, but not fire the second bullet. In order to get the gun to fire I would have to partially charge the bolt and then it would fire, eject and cycle but not allow the user to shoot in semi auto. It was essentially acting like a straight pull bolt action rifle. Along with the lack of semi auto the safety was stuck in the hot setting. It would not allow the shooter to flick it to safe without partially charging the bolt. Obviously something was very wrong with the rifle. We took the gun apart and inspected it but everything seemed ok. We tried PMAGS and steel USGI mags but the gun was still not functioning properly. During testing of different mags the rifle started to do something else which was extremely concerning and then go back to the previous bolt action like condition. At this point we concluded something was deeply wrong with the rifle and took it directly back to the store I purchased it from. The gunsmith was able to shoot the rifle and recreate the malfunctions we had experienced.
As of writing this post the rifle is in transit back to the manufacturer to be repaired.

I can't say I'm surprised the 180 gave me issues since they have a reputation of being unreliable. I am impressed / concerned in the way the gun failed and a little disappointed. To date I have maybe 100-150 rounds through the rifle... Hopefully I get it back from Kodiak by the time the Gen 2 lowers / uppers come to market.
 
the syptom makes it sound like the bolt is not making it far enough back to #### the hammer. or perhaps the hammer isn't being held back when firing. possible trigger pack issue?

if it's picking up a round but needing to be cocked again manually that would suggest something in that area to me, and it fits with the safety issue asbthat can't be engaged without being cocked.
 
uAJollyRogering said:
the syptom makes it sound like the bolt is not making it far enough back to #### the hammer. or perhaps the hammer isn't being held back when firing. possible trigger pack issue?

if it's picking up a round but needing to be cocked again manually that would suggest something in that area to me, and it fits with the safety issue asbthat can't be engaged without being cocked.
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I have a feeling you're probably correct.
 
NetRideR said:
...Not having access to the gas block kinda sucks but in your experience have you had to adjust it?
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How else are you going to clean the gas system without it? Your going to have to take off the hand guard every time you disassemble to clean the piston and gas block, of which based on the very first models I had, is not very robust or generous enough in tolerances to handle any significance of fouling; especially true if you are using dirty ammo like Tula/Wolf, Norinco, or cheap FMJ like American Eagle 'Dirty bird' ammo.

These rifles probably need a good cleaning every 500 rounds or so.
I'd say that may be an issue with your failure to function if you haven't cleaned the gas system in a while.
 
4 years without cleaning eh?
How many rounds in that time?
You should post some photos when you do decide to do a tear down.
 
dunno, not a huge amount, probably less than a thousand (I mostly shoot 22), but it's also never had nice ammo through it, only bulk box win/rem/barnaul. but it's never had any issue related to gas.

I think same as AR15, the pressure is going to blast anything out of there. If it ever acts up I'll take before and after pics, but I won't clean it until it does.
 
uAJollyRogering said:
I think same as AR15, the pressure is going to blast anything out of there.
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Most of the gas deposits from an AR15 end up in the bolt carrier, as the bolt carrier acts essentially as the piston, and the excess blows off at the carrier.
However, gas tube replacement is sometimes required with high round count ARs due to excessive fouling.

The AR-180B and other semi-autos with gas pistons will deposit most carbon fouling at the piston head and gas block.

Even if you're not experiencing functioning issues, that carbon fouling is caustic in nature and will trap moisture, leaving everything it is in contact with susceptible to degradation such as rusting and pitting.
 
interesting, well i have new rifle coming so this one will be getting some down time, maybe I'll pull it apart and see the consequences of my neglect
 
Got the gun back from the manufacturer a couple months ago but due to work I didn't have any time to shoot it until last weekend. Went out to a zombie shoot at Trail BC with the West Kootenay Marksmen and had a blast! Everyone was super cool and the course of fire was pretty fun! This is the second event put on by the Trail club and I would recommend anyone trying to make it to their events in the future.

I put close to 100 rounds through the gun and had no issues with standard P mags or metal USGI mags. The gun doesn't seem to like .458 socom mags. The bolt drags across the round in the top of the mag and will occasionally punch a hole in the brass.
 
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