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I was not sure which forum to post this in but thought this forum would perhaps get me some advice from the guys with knowledge on assembling rifles.

My new 6.5 x 55 jig saw puzzle package arrived today from TradeEx and I am pumped! First of all thanks to Anthony at TradeEx for his help. It took 6 days from Quebec to Alberta which must be some kind of world record or something? All the parts were exactly as described or better. The Canada Post Destructo Crew must be on vacation because the package arrived without a scratch. I don't think they could have hurt it anyways because it was packaged so well.

Now I get to begin putting all the pieces together. I bought the M96 barreled action with most of the bits and pieces I need to put it all together and a Sporter stock. Note I said "most"....lol. This is my first project doing this so I kind of expected I would forget some parts, and I did, but never fear another call to TradeEx should sort that out.

If anyone has some advice for a newbie at rifle assembly I would sure appreciate it. I am also seeking a schematic for a M96 without any luck so far.

Really looking forward to having a finished 6.5 x 55 M96 Sporter that I have had a hand in building and working up some loads for it this summer. Now I have time to strip and re-finish the stock I bought with the rifle. Any tips for stopping and sealing a very small crack on the forend? I knew it was there when I bought it.
Regards,
Dave.​
 
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Small cracks can be spread slightly and filled with Accuglass or a similar type glue. For a schematic of the m/96 rifle, PM me with your e-mail address.

You have also found out what a lot of us know about Trade-Ex. Good service, reasonable prices, excellent description of the products they sell, and great packaging.
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ciphery said:
Have fun.....oh and when you think your bore is clean....think again!
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Would you care to expand on this comment please? Are you mentioning something particular to 6.5 x 55's or M96's or just rifles in general?

Not being a jerk or anything. I genuinely want to know what you are getting at? If I understand correctly this is a brand new M38 barrel spun into a M96 action so how would it require any special cleaning?
Regards,
Dave.​
 
buffdog said:
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Small cracks can be spread slightly and filled with Accuglass or a similar type glue. For a schematic of the m/96 rifle, PM me with your e-mail address.

You have also found out what a lot of us know about Trade-Ex. Good service, reasonable prices, excellent description of the products they sell, and great packaging.
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One person had advised me similar except to use ordinary wood glue. Any opinion on that concept? This is going to be a working rifle, not a safe queen, so while I would like the stock to be sound and in good shape it doesn't need to be perfect.

TradeEx has been superb and Anthony has the patience of a saint dealing with me....lol. If this fun project turns out as good as I hope I think I may have just found my new winter hobby and will be doing this sort of thing regularly. I will have to keep my eyes and ears open for complimentary web sites and info such as aftermarket stocks etc.
Regards,
Dave.

Oh yeah...PM on the way and thanks!​
 
I had a blast building mine. It went from this.

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Still working on finding a load it likes..
 
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Accuglass or any of the thin, water like, glues have a greater tensile strength than the wood itself. They also bond better when the crack is a bit dirty or oily. Cleaning the crack with Acetone can help adhesion. Most of these glues dry and form a bond by chemical reaction, rather than drying as most wood glues do. They are also waterproof, and some wood glues are not.

As far as bore cleaning, sometimes in any rifle the bore might look clean after you fire and then clean it. However, an application of one of the foaming bore cleaners, such as "Wipe out" will usually clean even more out of the bore and your patches will come out coloured. Since your barrel is a "new replacement" military barrel, it was coated with preservative, both inside and outside, so really make sure it is clean.

Good luck on your sporter project.
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buffdog said:
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Accuglass or any of the thin, water like, glues have a greater tensile strength than the wood itself. They also bond better when the crack is a bit dirty or oily. Cleaning the crack with Acetone can help adhesion. Most of these glues dry and form a bond by chemical reaction, rather than drying as most wood glues do. They are also waterproof, and some wood glues are not.

As far as bore cleaning, sometimes in any rifle the bore might look clean after you fire and then clean it. However, an application of one of the foaming bore cleaners, such as "Wipe out" will usually clean even more out of the bore and your patches will come out coloured. Since your barrel is a "new replacement" military barrel, it was coated with preservative, both inside and outside, so really make sure it is clean.

Good luck on your sporter project.
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Buffdog,
Thanks for your input, very much appreciated. My wife is a cabinet maker so naturally leans towards a wood glue...thus the advice. However I see what you are saying and it makes sense so I think I will try the Accuglass. Now for dumb question # 43 so far in my rifle assembly project, where could I purchase Accuglass? (Poor Anthony at TradeEx is probably wishing I would go take my business somewhere else right about now because I have asked him so many questions.)

The outside of the action and barrel are as clean as any rifle I have ever handled with no evidence of factory grease etc. I have not had a look inside the barrel yet but what you are saying makes sense. I will have some good help breaking in the rifle properly once assembled because my son in law(s) are shooters with training in that regard.

Once I have all of the parts here for my assembly I hope to take lots of pictures so I can create a step by step instruction illustration to perhaps help others (and myself) in doing this kind of project.

Right now I am hung up on whether I need a safety for the bolt as shipped to me. It appears I do and right about now Anthony at TradeEx is opening my latest e-mail and groaning. Sorry my friend....
Regards,
Dave.​
 
Well the rest of the parts I need for my assembly arrived safe and sound y-day from TradeEx. Fast and well packaged the same as the first shipment. This weekend I will begin a dry run assembly to make sure I have everything and it all fits properly. Then I will strip again and begin work on the stock.
Thanks for everyones help and advice. I will post a picture of the completed project.
Regards,
Dave.​
 
You would need Swedish manual to get a schematic of the action.

Google is your friend.

Look up a schematic for the 1895 Mauser; actions differ only in date of adoption, shape of the cocking piece and tiny detail.
 
So I thought I would add some pics to this thread so everyone can see what is happening. I still need the trigger asembly and the bolts (screws?) that hold everything together and to the stock. Not sure about the follower in the magazine as it flops up out of the mag when the bolt is opened? Is there perhaps a keeper that I am missing?

I am thinking I have some parts that I do not need as the sporter bolt TradeEx supplied seems to have this built in? And I am not sure how to accomodate a safety?

The one pic clearly shows the small crack in the stock that I will be fixing.

So here are the pics. Any input appreciated.
Regards,
Dave.

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So no reply from TradeEx about a trigger assembly which got me to wondering if anyone might have a recommendation for an aftermarket trigger assembly....if one exists for the Mauser 96 action?

As you can see this is a Sporter that will be used for punching some paper and the occasional coyote so it will not be a longe range wonder rifle. At some point in time I might decide to do some further mod.'s and change to a different stock, perhaps bed the action etc. but all just for poops and giggles.

Thanks for any input.
Regards,
Dave.​
 
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Trade-Ex is in the process of moving from Montreal to Ontario. They should be in operation by the 15th or maybe a bit sooner.

With that streamlined aftermarket bolt shroud, you are going to have to use an aftermarket trigger such as a Timney WITH the thumb safety, or, you are going to have to use the bolt shrouds, sear and an original or low swing safety. It is also possible to make a push button safety similar to a Remington shotgun safety, but it would cost you half the price of the Timney or similar one. However, this would only block the trigger and not the firing pin and sear.

When the trigger guard and magazine are in place, the magazine follower should not "flop" up out of the action. If you have an original follower, it has a square edge on the back of it. This is a Military requirement as it tells the Soldier that his magazine is empty. This 90 degree square edge can be sloped at an angle with a grinder and will allow the bolt to close with the magazine empty. The follower should stop at the feed rails of the action.

I would hope that this is a "labor of love" for you as you have probably spent enough money on this project to have bought a m/96 factory sporter by now, and are heading into the Commercial Husqvarna 1640 sporter price area.
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buffdog said:
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Trade-Ex is in the process of moving from Montreal to Ontario. They should be in operation by the 15th or maybe a bit sooner.

With that streamlined aftermarket bolt shroud, you are going to have to use an aftermarket trigger such as a Timney WITH the thumb safety, or, you are going to have to use the bolt shrouds, sear and an original or low swing safety. It is also possible to make a push button safety similar to a Remington shotgun safety, but it would cost you half the price of the Timney or similar one. However, this would only block the trigger and not the firing pin and sear.

When the trigger guard and magazine are in place, the magazine follower should not "flop" up out of the action. If you have an original follower, it has a square edge on the back of it. This is a Military requirement as it tells the Soldier that his magazine is empty. This 90 degree square edge can be sloped at an angle with a grinder and will allow the bolt to close with the magazine empty. The follower should stop at the feed rails of the action.

I would hope that this is a "labor of love" for you as you have probably spent enough money on this project to have bought a m/96 factory sporter by now, and are heading into the Commercial Husqvarna 1640 sporter price area.
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Thanks for the information, much appreciated. I thought it kind of odd that TradeEx suddenly seemed to disappear but moving would explain that.

A Timney trigger is probably the solution for my small problem then. The magazine follower "tab" has already been ground off. I will wait until everything is in place and snugged down and see if the follower works properly then.

This project is as much about learning and doing something with my hands as it is about "buying another rifle" so I honestly have not been adding up the dollars and cents. Without getting out the receipts and a calculator I am somewhere just over the $400 mark but that would include some parts that I purchased that apparently I do not need. (see the aluminum tubes in pics above ~ $90) Yes, I could have simply bought one of the used guns that TradeEx has on their web site but there would be no new knowledge, no hobby fun and at the end of the day it is still a used rifle while my project rifle will be a new action, barrel etc with only a used stock.

Speaking to that I keep getting the odd sensation that somehow my doing this project has offended some people somehow? Not sure if I have magically crossed some unspoken boundary by doing this assembly but all I can say is Sorry if I have offended anyone, that was not my intent. It was simply a project to fill some long winter days and to learn something new and interesting for an old semi-retired guy.

So onwards and upwards, will start looking where to buy a Timney trigger and some bolts (screws?) to hold my action together to my stock.
Best regards and thanks again for the input.
Dave.
 
What you have is a reworked action from a specialized Swedish gunsmith (I don't remember the Company's name, but leave it with me and I'll find it later).

The action was trued, the bolt re-worked (they made a notch to avoid the bolt shroud rotating, which was a big complaint for M/94 based sporters). They were intended to be the last evolution of the M/94 sporters.
They were intended to be used with an aftermarket trigger with the side safety and as you can see they have a recess ground into the receiver side to permit the use of the sliding type safety.


The ones Trade Ex got (like yours) are non-issued from the leftover stock of the company who were proceeding to the rework.


Be patient and you'll get the action screws from Trade Ex when they re-open.
 
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Baribal said:
What you have is a reworked action from a specialized Swedish gunsmith (I don't remember the Company's name, but leave it with me and I'll find it later).

The action was trued, the bolt re-worked (they made a notch to avoid the bolt shroud rotating, which was a big complaint for M/94 based sporters). They were intended to be the last evolution of the M/94 sporters.
They were intended to be used with an aftermarket trigger with the side safety and as you can see they have a recess ground into the receiver side to permit the use of the sliding type safety.


The ones Trade Ex got (like yours) are non-issued from the leftover stock of the company who were proceeding to the rework.


Be patient and you'll get the action screws from Trade Ex when they re-open.
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Excellent information and thank you very much. Patience is one of my strengths so I shall use a generous measure waiting for Anthony and crew to get settled in their new digs. Just the thought of moving gives me nightmares........

The action and barrel look pristine, as good as any new rifle I have ever purchased, so whoever did the work did so with skill and pride.

So I will take some time and browse some Timney triggers and perhaps some other makes if I can find any.
Regards,
Dave.​
 
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