Well, if that is the case that's quite different...I will definitely look in to that when I get back.
New AR failure to fire **Solved operator error**
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My intent is not to deny anything but simply to clarify what EXACTLY is true and what is not.
I'm not trying to pick a fight or accuse you of anything. I charge all NEA rifles before they ship. I now preform a quick function test as well. I haven't heard of anyone complaining about the last two batches that have when out. You had issues with your gun which is why we came to the arrangement that we did.
Ryan
Ryan
Interesting...any reason to think that it could not have fired, then?
No reason to. Let me see if I can get a picture of the deflector...it should have brass marks on it showing it was fired. I just checked Dweenz's pictures but there are none showing that angle of the deflector.
I gave Dweenz a full refund on the gun as I told him I didn't want him having a gun that he'd never fired and would always be second guessing. Now that I have it back I can't even resell it as a used gun (fixed of course) because when he filed/dremeled down the end plate he did so with it on the gun. Problem with that...he ground away at the reciever in doing so and covered the marks with black marker.
I'm not here to pick a fight and you guys/gals know I rarely get involved in these discussions. I just don't like to see people posting stuff I know if blatently untrue. I'm pretty easy to deal with....my rules are simple, don't yell at the girls in the store and be polite.
Now that you mention it, Jeff actually commented to me last time we spoke that there should be brass marks on the deflector on that gun. If Dweenz never fired it, and there are brass marks, then that settles the matter, and I am back to wondering if a single instance of the alleged phony proof brass has ever occurred.
If you get the chance to check the rifle I am extremely curious to know if there are brass marks on the deflector.
If you get the chance to check the rifle I am extremely curious to know if there are brass marks on the deflector.
Interesting...so perhaps what Jeff was saying was that there WERE brass marks on the deflector...I thought that was what he said but could not make sense of it as I thought you had the gun, and your pics did not include the brass deflector. I could not figure out how he would have known whether there were marks or not, so I concluded I must have misunderstood, and that he was saying it should have marks, not it DID have marks.
If NEA got it back first, that explains his comment about the brass marks.
Well, there you have it.
If NEA got it back first, that explains his comment about the brass marks.
Well, there you have it.
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MG4201, I have to ask, what is the issue with you and NEA? Your posts go above and beyond most of the time. If you'd purchased a gun and had a Dweenz experience I could fully understand your posts but the concerned person excuses doesn't fly with me unless I'm missing something.
You're like the Anti Shill
You're like the Anti Shill
No, I believe he said it had marks. The confusion was on my part; I was under the impression that Ryan had the gun and I didn't realize it had been back to NEA. I concluded I must have misunderstood Jeff's comment, and decided he must have said that the gun should have marks. I believe his comment was that it DID have marks, I just didn't get it at the time. It was in the middle of a conversation on the phone that was mainly about music, not guns, so I didn't make a particular effort to clarify things at the time.
No I have no dog in this fight. I am just a concerned person. I work in the manufacturing sector and I take great pride in making products as good as I am able to. When I saw the sh!t quality of the machining on dweenz upper it pissed me right off. Anyone who would let that product out of the factory clearly doesn't care about the people who purchase the product. Moreover NEA is shipping these AR's to other countries and those people are seeing a crappy looking product with multiple function issues and knowing it came from Canada, and that really pisses me off. The shilling and everything else that is just adding insult to injury.
I know NEA's position is that surface texture is not a spec'd part, and consequently they are less concerned about that.
They do work on stuff where surface finish is required in the spec, and in those cases they work to the spec and charge accordingly.
I am told, though, that they do have a new process for surface finish on the gen 4 stuff which gives a smoother texture.
But the bottom line for them is that they are saving mill time by focusing on the critical dimensions, not the aesthetic ones, which is part of how they are able to set the prices as they do.
They do work on stuff where surface finish is required in the spec, and in those cases they work to the spec and charge accordingly.
I am told, though, that they do have a new process for surface finish on the gen 4 stuff which gives a smoother texture.
But the bottom line for them is that they are saving mill time by focusing on the critical dimensions, not the aesthetic ones, which is part of how they are able to set the prices as they do.
Well with the upper in Jeff's hands, the dealer telling two different stories and pictures that are inconclusive. I have to believe the person with no history of deception between Jeff and Dweenz. And that person is dweenz.
It's in shadow, you can't see anything on it...not even a machining mark
The picture is taken from the overhead position. while I do agree that the surface I want to see is not in focus there is no brass color that I can see.
