New Back Stop

To be blunt:

I am not concerned with the backstop. I am concerned with the baffles.

I stopped .223 sales and use as there were a LOT of holes on range A (mostly members side) and this posed a real possibility for rounds to leave the building.

Yes, you can buy frangible in a lot of places, but we also found a number of members refilling boxes of frang with other .223. This again posed serious safety concerns and most of the holes.

If I was made aware that any staff member was letting in outside Frangible, I would have fired them as well. This is a blatant violation of one of the conditions applied to us by the Ontario CFO to even let is use frangible in our range. This is well posted and the staff and member put us all in jeopardy by ignoring this.

Contracts have been signed and work will begin in the next few months on the backstops, baffles and HVAC with all work to be completed within 10-14 weeks (yes, weeks). It is a complicated, project with lots of moving parts and coordination to be undertaking.

However, even after completion I will be limiting the use of centrefire rifle cartidges to certain times as we want to encourage families with young'ins to come in. A line full of 7.5 inch ARs will not do that.

If anyone wants to leave because they feel slighted, I am happy to refund a prorated membership fee. Simply contact me directly and I will organize this without haste.

These range upgrades are costing almost $400k and will give this facility a new lease on life with increased safety and versatility. They will also provide the shooters with greatly increased comforts such as air cooling during the summer.

The majority of snide complaints I hear at Target from members about the walk ins are completely unfounded. The safety issues we have are not with the newwbies, they are almost exclusively the old guard... Complacency breeds mistakes.

I am extremely happy with the Target facility and want to make it the best possible range, but it takes a commitment from the unsupervised members to not shoot it up and ruin a good thing for everyone.

JR
 
As a new member still waiting for CLSC, I agreed with JR's priority assessment on the ventilation because even though some members said that they never had any problem for years, I still see the ROs and some members wearing full RESPIRATORS and masks. Since lead fume/dust is almost invisible and subject to personal sensitivity, it would be too late if you find out there are too high level of lead in your blood during your physical check-up.


We recently hired a medical OH&S firm to come in and test the air and location and are happy with the results for the public. Unfortunately, the levels for the staff if the work a 44 hour week IN the range, which is actuAlly impossible, but hey... Government policy, would expose them to too high an extended exposure, so we have to have the full time staff wear masks.

The new HVAC will aleviate this completely.

JR
 
Hey JR,

Great to hear on the improvements, especially on the new backstop! Once it is completed, will most centrefire rile cartridges be allowed for use on the range?
 
Hey JR,

Great to hear on the improvements, especially on the new backstop! Once it is completed, will most centrefire rile cartridges be allowed for use on the range?

This will depend completely on the Ontario CFO. We ahve not found them to be overly accommodating in the past, but we are hopeful.

JR
 
We recently hired a medical OH&S firm to come in and test the air and location and are happy with the results for the public. Unfortunately, the levels for the staff if the work a 44 hour week IN the range, which is actuAlly impossible, but hey... Government policy, would expose them to too high an extended exposure, so we have to have the full time staff wear masks.

The new HVAC will aleviate this completely.

JR
Any chance for a copy of that report?
 
These range upgrades are costing almost $400k and will give this facility a new lease on life with increased safety and versatility. They will also provide the shooters with greatly increased comforts such as air cooling during the summer.


JR

You forgot to mention heat in the winter.
 
Hopefully we can shoot the .223 by June time frame. Even if it is going to be on a limited schedule basis, better than nothing.
 
The upgrades are looking awesome and the place is being seriously over built to give it another 20 years.

Heat in winter, cooling in summer

More versatility in calibres

Very clean air quality

The list of improvements goes on amd on. The new stalls and retrievers are the last on the list, but once we get things up amd running, will not be far behind.

While the backstop and baffles will be done over the next month or so, the HVAC is still being build and will not be installed until may or June.

If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a line. Jr@theedgegroup.ca
 
Thanks for the updae JR.

I thought the renovation was just for the backstops but it appears it is almost a full reboot of the range. Love it!

The upgrades are looking awesome and the place is being seriously over built to give it another 20 years.

Heat in winter, cooling in summer

More versatility in calibres

Very clean air quality

The list of improvements goes on amd on. The new stalls and retrievers are the last on the list, but once we get things up amd running, will not be far behind.

While the backstop and baffles will be done over the next month or so, the HVAC is still being build and will not be installed until may or June.

If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a line. Jr@theedgegroup.ca
 
It started out as just backstops, but once I started digging, the facility was just worn out and needed more TLC.

Plus, after a bunch of environmental testing, the HVAC is beyond help to bring it up to modern standards, so... Might as well get on it....

The bays once finished will be awesome. They will work with more calibres like .223 and .308... But NO steel core/steel jacket. That stuff is just murder in any indoor range.

Because of the noise and to not scare away the families, we will come up with some dedicated "centerfire rifle" times, but it will be reasonable.

But the nice thing is, no more frangible!
 
It started out as just backstops, but once I started digging, the facility was just worn out and needed more TLC.

Plus, after a bunch of environmental testing, the HVAC is beyond help to bring it up to modern standards, so... Might as well get on it....

The bays once finished will be awesome. They will work with more calibres like .223 and .308... But NO steel core/steel jacket. That stuff is just murder in any indoor range.

Because of the noise and to not scare away the families, we will come up with some dedicated "centerfire rifle" times, but it will be reasonable.

But the nice thing is, no more frangible!

awesome!
i hope the plan for new retrievers go ahead. so many of them break down now (currently two down today in range B) and many of the cables sag more than 80 year old boobs. lol
 
awesome!
i hope the plan for new retrievers go ahead. so many of them break down now (currently two down today in range B) and many of the cables sag more than 80 year old boobs. lol

It will, but funds will be tight for a bit. With all of the closure time right now, it's killing the cashflow. This is something we planned for, but you cannot knit money out of nothing.

I have already ordered and paid for the level 4 ballistic glass for the new lane dividers as well.
 
How about soft point or lead core surplus?

Probably soft point, but we have had way too many problems with people and "steel jacket"...

We have to wait and test the intallation first before we can commit to anything.

I looked at doing the entire range in an AR steel, but the cost difference was simply way to high.
 
I was in the shop saturday and asked about the new backstops and renovations. An employee told me 6 months. Your version is much more optimistic. I think the correct timeline needs to be passed down to the floor employees.
 
I was in the shop saturday and asked about the new backstops and renovations. An employee told me 6 months. Your version is much more optimistic. I think the correct timeline needs to be passed down to the floor employees.

construction timelines are often inaccurate in my experience. they can tell you 3 months but if it goes over then everyone will make a big stink over it. i think saying a longer date would give them a bit of a cushion to fall back on. thats what i would do anyway.
 
The CFO inspector is coming on Tuesday to inspect the new backstop on range A, then we can put on the rubber.

It is all coming along nicely.

JR
 
Sweet!!!

Out of curiosity - will the CFO inspector fire rounds to test the back stop?

the cfo inspector is coming on tuesday to inspect the new backstop on range a, then we can put on the rubber.

It is all coming along nicely.

Jr
 
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