New Barrel for my Xcr

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Are shorter barrels being made and sold for the XCR? I was thinking around 10 inches? I already know that a shorter barrel will make it restricted and I have to register it as such.

Does such things exist in canada?
 
Ya your trying to open a can of worms by wanting a short barrel for your XCR rifle. If you want a short barreled XCR get the pistol version as suggested and sell your rifle. Really sucks that we can't utilize the XCR barrel change ability to it's fullest by swopping out for a shorter barrel but it is what it is. At least we can swop out caliber changes without big headaches.

I've got a XCR-L in .223 with a 7.62x39 conversion kit, decent gun and has always worked good for me in both calibers.
 
It's perfectly legal to own a short barrel. Once it's installed you would need to register your XCR. Businesses have taken it upon themselves to passively police the gun owning population by simply not selling these items. The excuse I get is "all it takes is one person to ruin it". Wolverine is not the only one, North Sylva dosen't sell short Tavor barrels OR the barrel wrench for this exact reason. I'd imagine Gravel won't provide short ACR barrels either.

If you really want a shorter barrel, you'll need have one made from a blank. I would contact Herron Arms for this. They will need your gas system and barrel extension (or a spare off of another barrel), as well as your rifle to test fit and function. I've have three barrels made and all have been excellent.
 
It's perfectly legal to own a short barrel. Once it's installed you would need to register your XCR. Businesses have taken it upon themselves to passively police the gun owning population by simply not selling these items. The excuse I get is "all it takes is one person to ruin it". Wolverine is not the only one, North Sylva dosen't sell short Tavor barrels OR the barrel wrench for this exact reason. I'd imagine Gravel won't provide short ACR barrels either.

If you really want a shorter barrel, you'll need have one made from a blank. I would contact Herron Arms for this. They will need your gas system and barrel extension (or a spare off of another barrel), as well as your rifle to test fit and function. I've have three barrels made and all have been excellent.

I believe 15inch tavor barrels were available at one point? Tv press pass has one and has registered his tavor and unregistered it before.
And seeing as the only acr barrels that are made from bushmaster are 16 inches what do you think they would provide?
 
It's perfectly legal to own a short barrel. Once it's installed you would need to register your XCR. Businesses have taken it upon themselves to passively police the gun owning population by simply not selling these items. The excuse I get is "all it takes is one person to ruin it". Wolverine is not the only one, North Sylva dosen't sell short Tavor barrels OR the barrel wrench for this exact reason. I'd imagine Gravel won't provide short ACR barrels either.

If you really want a shorter barrel, you'll need have one made from a blank. I would contact Herron Arms for this. They will need your gas system and barrel extension (or a spare off of another barrel), as well as your rifle to test fit and function. I've have three barrels made and all have been excellent.

The short barrels won't work with the XCR-L rifles as the fore end is too long and will not accommodate the gas block etc. It just physically won't fit.
 
The 10 inch barrel uses a shorter piston and upper, simply buying a shorter barrel is useless.

Anyone who think they can just switch to a short barrels once you are at the range read this part of the Firearms Registration Certificates Regulations (SOR/98-201)

  • 4. (1) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar, within 30 days after the modification, of
    • (a) any modification to the firearm that results in a change of class of the firearm;
    • (b) in the case of a firearm registered as a frame or receiver only, any modification that makes it capable of discharging ammunition;
    • (c) any modification to an altered automatic firearm; and
    • (d) any modification that results in the firearm ceasing to be a firearm.
  • (2) Subject to section 5, the Registrar shall attach to a registration certificate that is issued in respect of a firearm the condition that when the type, action, calibre or gauge of the firearm is modified, the holder of the certificate shall advise the Registrar of the modification,
    • (a) if the modification is intended to be permanent, within 30 days after the modification; and
    • (b) if the modification is not intended to be permanent but still exists 30 days after it is made, without delay after that period.
SOR/2004-276, s. 4.
 
I believe 15inch tavor barrels were available at one point? Tv press pass has one and has registered his tavor and unregistered it before.
And seeing as the only acr barrels that are made from bushmaster are 16 inches what do you think they would provide?

I thought after you change a non restricted to restricted and registered the restricted firearm; you can not turn the firearm back to non restricted?
 
I thought after you change a non restricted to restricted and registered the restricted firearm; you can not turn the firearm back to non restricted?

Yes you can. It needs to be taken to a verifier to be unregistered. Ask tv-press pass! And cr5 also had his acr unregistered after he put an 18.5 inch barrel on it.
 
For a very good reason, keep them out of Canada until the FA is repealed.
there are already xcr rifles in the registry with short barrels installed so the frt exists. Wolverine is selling/going to be selling short barrels for conversions, I asked this very question in their forum on this site not long ago
 
I inquired about something similar to Wolverine several months back and was told explicitly that they are not selling individual parts from the restricted (mini and micro) XCRs. Though now that I see the caliber conversion kit on their site for a micro, it seems they've changed their tune. Granted you would need to cut your upper receiver and also get a short tube and piston to convert a rifle.

Ultimately the onus is on the customer to do the legal thing. If you're installing a short barrel, call the CFO and notify them. In some cases you won't even need a verifier (its my understand anyway, depending on province) to go back and forth. TVPP could probably add to that.
 
I inquired about something similar to Wolverine several months back and was told explicitly that they are not selling individual parts from the restricted (mini and micro) XCRs. Though now that I see the caliber conversion kit on their site for a micro, it seems they've changed their tune. Granted you would need to cut your upper receiver and also get a short tube and piston to convert a rifle.

Ultimately the onus is on the customer to do the legal thing. If you're installing a short barrel, call the CFO and notify them. In some cases you won't even need a verifier (its my understand anyway, depending on province) to go back and forth. TVPP could probably add to that.

We've always had the caliber conversion for the XCR pistols, they just won't work with the XCR-L unless you butcher your gun. We don't sell the short barrels on their own, other than in the conversion kits for the pistols.
 
I believe 15inch tavor barrels were available at one point? Tv press pass has one and has registered his tavor and unregistered it before.
And seeing as the only acr barrels that are made from bushmaster are 16 inches what do you think they would provide?

You're right on both accounts. There used to be available, and may still be, short Tavor barrels. The distributor, North Sylva, did say they will not sell the tool so a guy can change out his barrel on his own, for fear that people would simply swap the barrels without registering the rifle. As far as the ACR's are concerned, all of the current ACR's are restricted (16" barrel), except for the small amount that Questar did up, and a few that others had made with Non-res barrels. You may be able to source a spare 16" barrel, but it's unlikely going to be easily available or offered as a spare part, as Gravel probably sees it the same way North Sylva does. As the 18.5" rifles start to come in, it will be interesting to see if they will provide anything smaller than the factory 18.5" barrel. My guess is that they will not.

The short barrels won't work with the XCR-L rifles as the fore end is too long and will not accommodate the gas block etc. It just physically won't fit.

I'm not advocating buying one of your short gas system barrels and trying to plug it into a full size XCR-L. Obviously that won't work. What will work, is having a barrel made, and using the factory gas system and barrel extension, either from the original rifle, or by simply buying one of the full size spare barrels and removing these components. It is very likely that the gas system will need to be fitted and tested in order to ensure proper cycling on a new short barrel.
 
I thought after you change a non restricted to restricted and registered the restricted firearm; you can not turn the firearm back to non restricted?

I have personally unregistered four firearms. I had the FRT created for the first 18.5" barrelled Swiss Arms Carbine, and then went on to do two more (not that they are any good now :mad: ). I've also unregistered a Short Barrelled Benelli M4 that had the factory 14" barrel. Swapped it out for the 18.5" and had it verified.
 
Yes you can. It needs to be taken to a verifier to be unregistered. Ask tv-press pass! And cr5 also had his acr unregistered after he put an 18.5 inch barrel on it.

So techincally you can register a firearm and unregister it as many times as you want? Won't the RCMP think something is up if you keep registering and unregistering the same firearm?
 
So techincally you can register a firearm and unregister it as many times as you want? Won't the RCMP think something is up if you keep registering and unregistering the same firearm?

As long as you have the correct license, you can go though this process as many times as you like. Keep in mind, it's not a simple phone call. You need to have a verifiers report completed for each status change. Kind of a pain and not worth it.
 
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