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Calibre 6.8 SPC to replace the .223R?
Isn't it true that the ballistic effect of the .223R is "short" when compared with the 7,62*39mm at 300m range?
So there is a new gun Barret for this new cartridge 6.8 SPC.
It is claimed that this ammo is capable of delivering deadly energy at a distance well over 300m.
Anyone lucky to try this new combo?
Do you think this cartridge is going to be the future in the US army?
Isn't it true that the ballistic effect of the .223R is "short" when compared with the 7,62*39mm at 300m range?
So there is a new gun Barret for this new cartridge 6.8 SPC.
It is claimed that this ammo is capable of delivering deadly energy at a distance well over 300m.
Anyone lucky to try this new combo?
Do you think this cartridge is going to be the future in the US army?
Where were you since last two years + ? 6.8 versus 5.56 have been all over forums & gun magazine ( you name it they had an article about it ). Might be a better round but this will not happen. The US will keep the 5.56 until they have a new platform not based on the AR15 system. The US military might prefer something like a .30 caliber round again like the new .30AR ?? Who know ?? They have one hell of a big deficit in sight and money will just not be there for new gun , new round for sometime.
Isn't it true that the ballistic effect of the .223R is "short" when compared with the 7,62*39mm at 300m range?
So there is a new gun Barret for this new cartridge 6.8 SPC.
It is claimed that this ammo is capable of delivering deadly energy at a distance well over 300m.
Anyone lucky to try this new combo?
Do you think this cartridge is going to be the future in the US army?
The paper ballistics of the 6.8 are #### past 300m. IIRC this cartridge is meant for ranges inside 300m?
Isn't it true that the ballistic effect of the .223R is "short" when compared with the 7,62*39mm at 300m range?
So there is a new gun Barret for this new cartridge 6.8 SPC.
It is claimed that this ammo is capable of delivering deadly energy at a distance well over 300m.
Anyone lucky to try this new combo?
Do you think this cartridge is going to be the future in the US army?
Well for 7.63x 39 300m is your "accurate range," So i wouldnt trust it over .223. Niether did the russians who decided to redesign their rifles for 5.45x39.
Also when saying it delivers deadly energy at over 300m.. Im pretty sure The .223 can deliver a deadly blow also. Even at 600m 6.8 only has roughly 100 ft/lbs over a heavy grain .223.
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What are the chances of getting export papers for them...... slim at best I would say. Ammo is a ##### to find but once you got the brass is std .270 bullets so rather easy to find, but more expensive than .223. Recoil is the same as .223 and like stated under 300 meter it's a interesting round if we could take the ar's out of the range but just to punch paper it's nothing more than a novelty item, but then so wouyld be laying the few thousands for a Barret rifle....
The bullet yaws as most boat tailed bullets due in tissue, the advantage our ammo has is that the impact velocity is enough at closer range that bullet fragments. If our bullet impacts at lower impact velocities it acts like those aforemention rounds as well.
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This is one of those cartridges I find truly interesting, and will bear some further investigation.
Kevin:
With this in mind:
Not that long ago there was much talk about 115 grains being optimal, with the 1-11 twist. However I have heard some talk about the 130 grain, and going to a 1-10 twist. Have they settled on twist rate, bullet weigh and bullet style yet (the reloader in me wants to know)
Based on your comments above, your recomendation on Carbine optics would be ?? (lets say 16" m4 style)
Mags - As with all AR platforms a key component. What would you suggest.
Appreciate your time and any light you might care to shine on this subject.
regards
AbH
Kevin:
With this in mind:
Not that long ago there was much talk about 115 grains being optimal, with the 1-11 twist. However I have heard some talk about the 130 grain, and going to a 1-10 twist. Have they settled on twist rate, bullet weigh and bullet style yet (the reloader in me wants to know)
Based on your comments above, your recomendation on Carbine optics would be ?? (lets say 16" m4 style)
Mags - As with all AR platforms a key component. What would you suggest.
Appreciate your time and any light you might care to shine on this subject.
regards
AbH
I bet this rifle is restricted because it's based on the AR.
This just drives home yet again how stupid our gun laws are, but their ignorance is our gain with the XCR.
You Guys should check out the Robinson XCR thread.
The XCR is not restricted because it's an all new design and is not based on an existing military firearm which is what restricts the Barrett, and they will be bringing in 6.8s.
The XCR is a beautiful very well thought out rifle, and it will shoot moa.
The 6.8 has twice the knockdown power @ 500 yards as the 223 with almost the same trajectory and very little recoil increase.
If you sight your 6.8 in 4" high @ 100 yards you will only drop 36" @ 500 yards.
That will give you point blank aim out to over 300 yards.
I ordered a 6.8 XCR from Wolverine yesterday and the wait list is growing.
This just drives home yet again how stupid our gun laws are, but their ignorance is our gain with the XCR.
You Guys should check out the Robinson XCR thread.
The XCR is not restricted because it's an all new design and is not based on an existing military firearm which is what restricts the Barrett, and they will be bringing in 6.8s.
The XCR is a beautiful very well thought out rifle, and it will shoot moa.
The 6.8 has twice the knockdown power @ 500 yards as the 223 with almost the same trajectory and very little recoil increase.
If you sight your 6.8 in 4" high @ 100 yards you will only drop 36" @ 500 yards.
That will give you point blank aim out to over 300 yards.
I ordered a 6.8 XCR from Wolverine yesterday and the wait list is growing.
