new canadian made 1911
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I'd like to buy another Cdn product and these look very promising. I would prefer no front serations and old school straight ones at the rear but it wouldn't be a deal breaker.
I will wait a bit and see if they expand their line to include a commander length, though the kit option is very interesting.
I will wait a bit and see if they expand their line to include a commander length, though the kit option is very interesting.
Prices might be good, depends on what's in them and how well they're fitted together. Maybe I'm just blind (I am pretty wasted at the moment) but I can't see any information on these anywhere on the site.
I personally can't tell much about a 1911 from a photo beyond "it has a rail" or "it has a beavertail" kind of thing...that is borderline useless information IMO.
Anyway from the pics here is what I am gathering just at first glance, while WAY past the legal driving limit, so take it for what it's worth:
I am currently looking at the "Defender"
I see:
1) front strap checkering...probably cost you $300 to have done to a nork
2) undercut trigger guard, probably cost you another $50 at least
3) fitted beaver tail, another $100 or so
4) rail...might pay $100 for the rail and $100 to have it installed here in Canada
5) ejection port flared and lowered, that's maybe another $75
6) seems reasonable to assume a good tight barrel fit and slide fit...say $250
I also see what I think are Novak sights (another hundred) and of course front serrations (which I don't like so don't value at all but they're so common now, not much point in adding money for them anyway).
So just to ballpark this work, I would think it would cost you something in the range of $750-1000 to make a nork in to this gun.
Of course if the parts in these are cheap, then I'm not impressed, and if they don't feed a thousand HPs between stoppages I'm not impressed.
On the other hand, if they are tight guns and they RUN (most important IMO) then sure, $1600 for a nice 1911, why not?
I mean seriously, you think a Canadian built match 1911 is going to be price competitive in any way with a Norinco? ####, I'm hammered and it's obvious to me that's out of the question. If you don't know the difference between a Norinco and a Brownell's catalogue and a well-built 1911, then christ, don't buy one of these. Buy something you do understand, like a tricycle or a piece of shiny glass or something.
And I am not someone opposed to Norinco...I have a Norinco 1911, and at one time I owned 7 norks at the same time. But there is a difference between some guy at home throwing a Wilson drop-in beavertail and tac thumb safety on his norinco police and a hand-fitted 1911.
Whether these are worth the money, I couldn't say. But the price doesn't jump out at me as unreasonable IF they are good guns.
The only Canadian 1911 I ever shot was a Para-Ordnance, so obviously my personal hopes are pretty low. These do appear to be a pretty different animal, though.
I just hope the emphasis is on FUNCTION and not FANCY.
And now, back to my regular scheduled whisky.
I personally can't tell much about a 1911 from a photo beyond "it has a rail" or "it has a beavertail" kind of thing...that is borderline useless information IMO.
Anyway from the pics here is what I am gathering just at first glance, while WAY past the legal driving limit, so take it for what it's worth:
I am currently looking at the "Defender"
I see:
1) front strap checkering...probably cost you $300 to have done to a nork
2) undercut trigger guard, probably cost you another $50 at least
3) fitted beaver tail, another $100 or so
4) rail...might pay $100 for the rail and $100 to have it installed here in Canada
5) ejection port flared and lowered, that's maybe another $75
6) seems reasonable to assume a good tight barrel fit and slide fit...say $250
I also see what I think are Novak sights (another hundred) and of course front serrations (which I don't like so don't value at all but they're so common now, not much point in adding money for them anyway).
So just to ballpark this work, I would think it would cost you something in the range of $750-1000 to make a nork in to this gun.
Of course if the parts in these are cheap, then I'm not impressed, and if they don't feed a thousand HPs between stoppages I'm not impressed.
On the other hand, if they are tight guns and they RUN (most important IMO) then sure, $1600 for a nice 1911, why not?
I mean seriously, you think a Canadian built match 1911 is going to be price competitive in any way with a Norinco? ####, I'm hammered and it's obvious to me that's out of the question. If you don't know the difference between a Norinco and a Brownell's catalogue and a well-built 1911, then christ, don't buy one of these. Buy something you do understand, like a tricycle or a piece of shiny glass or something.
And I am not someone opposed to Norinco...I have a Norinco 1911, and at one time I owned 7 norks at the same time. But there is a difference between some guy at home throwing a Wilson drop-in beavertail and tac thumb safety on his norinco police and a hand-fitted 1911.
Whether these are worth the money, I couldn't say. But the price doesn't jump out at me as unreasonable IF they are good guns.
The only Canadian 1911 I ever shot was a Para-Ordnance, so obviously my personal hopes are pretty low. These do appear to be a pretty different animal, though.
I just hope the emphasis is on FUNCTION and not FANCY.
And now, back to my regular scheduled whisky.
The only thing these Canstar Arms Development Corporation "Canadian made 1911"'s are missing is a King Optics Canada scope.
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So many to choose from! I want one of those shiny ones. 
I'll fire it till it's dirty. Maybe by Christmas if the firearm kitty has enough moolah in it to give Santa a nod, I might get one and do a range report on it. By then of course, someone is likely to have already done that. Oh well. Nice to see a Cdn manufacturer here. I hope they do well.
I'll fire it till it's dirty. Maybe by Christmas if the firearm kitty has enough moolah in it to give Santa a nod, I might get one and do a range report on it. By then of course, someone is likely to have already done that. Oh well. Nice to see a Cdn manufacturer here. I hope they do well.
well the model i want is only $200 more than my last 1911 so its not that expensive, looks like ill be the first here with a range report..., im going to order the Defender 5'' maybe i can get it in black.....going to send them a email and see what they say.
Canadian business = Awesomeness
, im going to order the Defender 5'' maybe i can get it in black.....going to send them a email and see what they say.Canadian business = Awesomeness
Well, I guess I have to be the devils advocate...
First, I congradulate any in country attempts to provide quality firearm products to us.
But, this site has alarm bells going off in my head.
-Who are they? not the company name but who are they and how long have they been doing it.
-Are they shipping product, or is it just flashy pic's?
-How could anyone say anything about their product without knowing whats in them and to what specification they are made. The web site is completely devoid of any content and I haven't read about anyone who has actually touched one.
To me I'm starting to think this is an April 1st joke...
-Nobody knows who is doing it (50000 gunnuts, they're in Ontario and nobody has blabbed on and on here??)
-The only info I've ever seen is a website and an Access to Firearms add that seriously lacks content.
-They seem to suggest they will be coming out with a lot of varied firearm designs ( What start up company has that kind of cash flow and R&D?).
I think I'll wait on this one, Hope I'm wrong.
First, I congradulate any in country attempts to provide quality firearm products to us.
But, this site has alarm bells going off in my head.
-Who are they? not the company name but who are they and how long have they been doing it.
-Are they shipping product, or is it just flashy pic's?
-How could anyone say anything about their product without knowing whats in them and to what specification they are made. The web site is completely devoid of any content and I haven't read about anyone who has actually touched one.
To me I'm starting to think this is an April 1st joke...
-Nobody knows who is doing it (50000 gunnuts, they're in Ontario and nobody has blabbed on and on here??)
-The only info I've ever seen is a website and an Access to Firearms add that seriously lacks content.
-They seem to suggest they will be coming out with a lot of varied firearm designs ( What start up company has that kind of cash flow and R&D?).
I think I'll wait on this one, Hope I'm wrong.
I totally agree with you, if they are lisenced to manufacture firearms, then someone may know about them.
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Just did a quick search on the Business Profiles section of Industry Canada, the federal dept that keeps track of companies. Looks like they've been in business since 2005 as a numbered company and changed it to Canstar Arms in Jan 2009.
6386903 CANADA INC., 2005-05-03 to 2009-01-26 CANSTAR ARMS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, 2009-01-26 to Present
For the full profile if you want to see it, you can go here:
http://businessprofiles.com/details/CANSTAR_ARMS_DEVELOPMENT_CORPORATION/CA-841015548RC0001
Cheers.
Hmmm even more interesting, looks, I am not try to be an ass, but if they were into business since 2009, then join this forum and introduce them to us, sell more guns to be more logical, unless their market is not us.
Trigun
After running a Google search of Canstar Arms Development Corporation, I came up with sites showing that they have a booth at the 2011 International Defence Exhibition & Conference being held in Abu Dhabi and the 2011 Naval Defence Exhibition, the latter seeming to be part of the former exhibition.
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According to a map I looked up Alfred is roughly half-way between Ottawa and Montreal on h/w 17, south of the Quebec border.
