New CNC/Billet manufactured fully adjustable EBR contoured triggers

[TonyBen]

I got a package in the mail this weekend and in it was a brand new fully-adjustable trigger specifically designed to be used in pistol-gripped M14's. It dropped right in and all I can say is WOW!!!

You get a lot more trigger than a GI trigger...


Here's an illustration about the current issue that a GI profile trigger presents with pistol-gripped chassis systems. The trigger finger is not fully supported and it causes discomfort during extended shooting sessions


Here's the Shooting Sight extended trigger. It presents not only a longer trigger which fully supports the trigger finger, but it's set at a different angle thats' more ideal for pistol-gripped rifles as well.


Up until now, the only solution was the trigger shoe which was installed using two set screws which clamped on to a GI trigger.


I tested the trigger out on a traditional stocked rifle as well and it is still comfortable and the angle that it's set at doesn't seem to take away from the original design.


Admittedly, I didn't read the instructions before diving into installation, but I was able to adjust the trigger pull to an obscenely low and then adjust it back to the proper trigger pull. Setup was probably in the instructions but I was just too excited to read them.

These triggers are fully machined from billet tool steel and nickel boron coated. The sample I received was heat treated but it was a "factory second" and had not had the nickel boron treatment yet. He also makes these in standard trigger contour.

Price is estimated to be between $175 and $200. Shooting Sight may have an export license, so it may be worth looking into. This batch is about 30 days out.

Tony.

 

[wildphil24]

Great idea! Should be a commercial success. I'd like to get one.

These triggers are fully machined from billet tool steel and nickel boron coated.
Tony.

Do you mean the trigger housing and everything are new manufactured or only the trigger?

 

[rugbydave]

Any idea one how well it would work to install one in a chinese trigger housing or would you need to have a USGI housing?

 

[TonyBen]

It's only the trigger, not the housing.

I don't know if it will work in Chinese housings. I don't know the differences.

Tony.

 

[notsorichguy]

As USGI parts are drop-in with Chinese trigger groups, I would assume this tigger would fit.

Nice write up Tony.

Better, worse or just different than the trigger shoe?

 

[ShootingSight]

Tony,

Thanks for posting. This is just the trigger, though I do hammers as well. Triggers should be available in about a month - the evaluation sample had been through heat treat, but not yet the final NiB coating.

I will be able to sell these to Canada if you direct order from my web site.

In theory, these should fit a Chinese trigger group, though I have seen a few cases (always on non-USGI groups), where some fitting was required. For some reason the gap between the spring guide ears was small, or the back wall of the housing was offset from the slot where the trigger bow went through the housing, so the trigger was either rubbing and binding, or else the trigger was pushed crooked so only 1 of the 2 sears was contacting, or the hammer was bumping the top of the trigger.

Nothing that cannot be fixed with judicious application of a belt sander, but it will slow down the install.

 

[TonyBen]

As USGI parts are drop-in with Chinese trigger groups, I would assume this tigger would fit.

Nice write up Tony.

Better, worse or just different than the trigger shoe?

Well, it's not really an apples to apples comparison. There is some overlap though so I'll say it's different. The new Shooting Sight triggers are in a class all their own in the sense that you get a newly manufactured trigger which is fully adjustable for trigger pull weight. It's also polished and Nickel Boron treated. It corrects the trigger placement and gives you a crisp trigger. It's also a drop-in replacement. The cost reflects it's benefits.

The trigger shoe is an add-on product to a recent problem (recent within the last decade). It's very cost effective at around $45 to $75 if you shop around or get lucky. However, the drawback is that it does nothing to improve the actual trigger pull weight or crispness. It also is held on by very tiny set screws (many users strip the heads out immediately) and it's prone to falling off. My solution was to use red loc-tite and glue it in place. When it comes time for removal, I'll have to use a heat gun to break down the loc-tite and just tap it off with a small hammer.

Luckily, the trigger group can be maintained without any disassembly of the trigger group unless you want a trigger job or unless the trigger is broken and needs actual replacing. The trigger shoe is very FAT and does provide much more bearing surface for the trigger finger and it is very comfortable. While it does not reduce trigger pull weight, it does reduce the perceived pull. That being said; the Shooting Sight trigger is VERY comfortable as well and feels no different than a GI trigger in a GI stock.

For the trigger shoe to be put in a comparable class with the Shooting Sight trigger, you'd have to factor in the cost of the trigger shoe ($45 to $75) and a trigger job ($45 to $125, depending on the gunsmith). So depending on the added cost, plus shipping, you're not too far off from a Shooting Sight trigger. Plus, as the parts wear, your trigger pull will reduce and you may begin to double. If the trigger pull ever shifts on the Shooting Sight trigger, you can always re-adjust it to the desired pull-weight and it's really easy to do.

Also, in conversations with Art (Shooting Sight), he has told me that with this trigger design, it is very difficult to get the Shooting Sight trigger to double, regardless of how light the trigger pull is. He's said that nobody has ever gotten their rifle to double with his triggers. I'll test his statement on my next range trip.

Tony.